No Agenda Episode 379, "The Soul Train of Podcasts" (2012-02-02)

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Transcript

Adam Curry:
I'm gonna roofie you! Roofie you.
Jingle:
Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
It's Thursday February second, two thousand twelve (2012-02-02). Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode Three Seven Niner (379).
Jingle:
This is No Agenda!
Adam Curry:
Tracking the unidentified meteors here in the capital of the Drone Star State of Camp Mofo. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry!
John C. Dvorak:
And tracking the Baltic Dry Index, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
Jingle:
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! (In the morning!)
Adam Curry:
And there you have it. That's why the show works so well. [laughs] I'm tracking the meteors, you're tracking the Baltic Dry Index. Mmm, that's hot by the way. Does that work on chicks in the bar?
John C. Dvorak:
Eeh, it hasn't so far.
Adam Curry:
Wow. Hey! In the morning to you Johnny boy.
John C. Dvorak:
In the morning to you Adam Curry and in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air.
Adam Curry:
And aliens in the motherships flying over Texas. We know what the real story is. In the morning to everyone in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. Good to see everyone here. I think we have a quorum, let me check and see. Ofcourse we do the program live thursday and sunday mornings at 9am PST and I'll be honest with you John and I'm just gonna say it now. We don't have meetings, we never talk outside of the programs. So I'm just gonna lay it out there and I let it go. If donations are like this I would suggest going back to one show a week.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
I'm not kidding.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well I'm actually stunned that we didn't do better on the long... or lag time, which is Thursday's show.
Adam Curry:
No, it's horrible.
John C. Dvorak:
We could do one show a week, that is not a problem.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. I mean I have to now, seriously consider getting some other gig somewhere. Doing something.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, why don't we start off giving our one executive producer a shout out.
Adam Curry:
Ok, lets do that. Ok
Adam Curry:
And of course, it is not an American, it's not a Canadian, it's not an Australian. All these people seem to have dried up. It's a Dutchman who comes in as our ...
John C. Dvorak:
From a town I will never pronounce in a million years: Eggstat
Adam Curry:
Very close! Try Oegstgeest [note: correct spelling according to Google]
John C. Dvorak:
Haha, how is that close!
Adam Curry:
It's not, but I like the 'Eggstat'. That's good!
John C. Dvorak:
Ogstragst
Adam Curry:
Oegstgeest is how you pronounce it.
John C. Dvorak:
Oegstragst. Now how do get the? ... Ok.
Adam Curry:
I think someone, somehow, an extraneous 'g' got in there, it should be Oestgeest, I think. I don't know where the...
John C. Dvorak:
That is what it says. Oegstgeest.
Adam Curry:
No, no. I think it should be Oest. I don't know how the 'g' got in there.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, ok... That is what confused me! Lukas Tahaima is how I would...
Adam Curry:
No, try Lukas Teijema.
John C. Dvorak:
Teijema
Adam Curry:
There you go. Well that you very much to our one executive, uh, associate executive producer. Is he a...
John C. Dvorak:
No, he is an executive producer.
Adam Curry:
Oh, that is right. He come in at the top.
John C. Dvorak:
Most amount over $200 get the executive producer job. Here is some... you know the first guy, that is him. "Here is some love, some very entertaining shows lately, which are very much appreciated" I guess this is the only truth they get to the area. Because of the EU's clampdown. And he says keep up the good work. Well we do good work.
Adam Curry:
We do. But it's not... if people don't see the value and don't want to contribute value then fine.
SFX:
Slide whistle (crash)
Adam Curry:
I'm happy to back to one show a week and find something else to do. Because it's not like I'm not working half as hard.
John C. Dvorak:
Right.
Adam Curry:
Alright, so I'll stop complaining. That will be it for the complaining portion of this show. But, ummm...
John C. Dvorak:
We got more complaining later.
Adam Curry:
Yeah [laughs] screw it, let's complain more later. That's a good idea. So, big news here, John, in the Drone Star State...
John C. Dvorak:
Besides that, I want to mention to people they could help us by going to http://noagendashow.com http://dvorak.org/na
Adam Curry:
Oh, just a thought, yes.
John C. Dvorak:
http://channeldvorak.com/na and showing us that they're actually listening to this show. And we're also getting... I want to remind people that there is a HUGE falloff this time of year.
Adam Curry:
With the PayPal automatic system donation.
John C. Dvorak:
The automatic systems because people get their new credit cards or whatever and they just get right off of PayPal. There's no followup.
Adam Curry:
Right. Have we seen this before?
John C. Dvorak:
They think that they're donating and they're not.
Adam Curry:
And they're not. Have we seen this before? Have we seen this in previous years? We're doing this now, this is our fifth year, is it not, John?
Adam Curry:
This is our fifth year. Is it not John? Our fith year together.
John C. Dvorak:
While we always had a crummy January so it's not ...
Adam Curry:
No, no, no, never this crummy, this is bad.
John C. Dvorak:
This is pretty bad. This is worse then last year. We're making less money doing this show then we did in terms of donations last year, so there you have it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
But, you know, I'm also reminding people, just go to your bank and setup a timed payment plan as opposed to working through PayPal. Cause we had two accounts. We had the old account when we started this show and I had to move it over to a NoAgenda account which is easier so I don't have these funds mixed up with my stuff and so I moved it over from my old.
So, like old, old supsrictions are still in that old account, and they keep cropping in. That account is almost getting no ... I mean it's almost dead.
Adam Curry:
Is almost dead, almost dead, yeah. I just got news from the chatroom our problem is Goldman Sachs is now shorting NoAgenda. That's the problem. We're in a short squeeze.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Jingle:
Dvorak.org slash NA.
Adam Curry:
But we will be talking about or value for value model later on in the program and before we move on I do want to thank a couple of producers who are helping us in other ways, other then monetary means and ofcourse we know it's a crisis it's not easy but if every single person atleast put up a buck a show then you wouldn't hearing this negativity comming out of my pie hole. First of all I wanna thank everyone who's working on the fanscribing of the NoAgenda podcast.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Adam Curry:
Currently 378.readnoagenda.com is 83% fanscribed so we're getting very close to having that. It looks like it could happen for every single episode.
Adam Curry:
fanscribed so we're getting very close to having that; and it looks like it could happen for every single episode, but actually it'd be good you know we'd go back to one and people would have a whole week to do it.
So, we'll get more bang for the buck there but we do highly appreciate everyone who is doing that because it helps with, well, it helps for research, we get indexed, there's a lot of good reasons to do that, and of course there's a lot of people out there who umm can only read, and can't hear.
John C. Dvorak:
Ya right, that that's true
John C. Dvorak:
Right, that that's true.
Adam Curry:
And they're probably
John C. Dvorak:
So ah..
Adam Curry:
Hold on
John C. Dvorak:
OK
Adam Curry:
Don't move on
John C. Dvorak:
Keep going
Adam Curry:
I got more, I got more
John C. Dvorak:
Keep going, keep going
Adam Curry:
I got more PR stuff.
John C. Dvorak:
Keep going, keep going, keep going
Adam Curry:
Remember Bill Edelin, Will, Bill, William. He's one of our producers who called in to the a Shannon Burke show and tried to promote us and he stumbled all over his scripts and stuff.
John C. Dvorak:
Yes we, we need better actors.
Adam Curry:
Well he's back. He's back and he's says look I'm I got my script and I'm really trying. [laughs] But its listening to this guy, this radio host, shows you exactly what's wrong with uh, mainstream programming.
Clip (Bill Edelin):
like, Scott Ledger and Dangerous Conversation
Clip (Shannon Burke):
a huh, alright
Clip (Bill Edelin):
also
Clip (Shannon Burke):
I do listen to Scott Ledger and Dangerous Conversation
Clip (Bill Edelin):
I also think you need to listen to, ah The No Agenda Podcast
Clip (Shannon Burke):
Ugh, sigh
Clip (Bill Edelin):
with Adam Curry and John C Dvorak
Adam Curry:
Listen to the guy go Ughhhhhhh
John C. Dvorak:
The guy groaned
Adam Curry:
It gets worse
John C. Dvorak:
Who is this guy?
Adam Curry:
Shannon Burke in the morning everybody
Clip (Shannon Burke):
Never heard of 'em
Clip (Bill Edelin):
they will watch C-Span for you, they will analyze the news stories
Clip (Shannon Burke):
You're right that's a good idea. I should spend some of my time talking about fuckin' C-SPAN.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Hey, no
John C. Dvorak:
No you listen to the show!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, dude
Clip (Bill Edelin):
No, not talking about it.
Clip (Shannon Burke):
Aww damn. Alright
Clip (Bill Edelin):
Just watching it. That way you'll see the scam of the media.
Clip (Shannon Burke):
Ok
Clip (Bill Edelin):
How they manipulate it
Clip (Shannon Burke):
I AM the media, Bill!
Adam Curry:
[pffftt}
Clip (Bill Edelin):
Right
Clip (Shannon Burke):
I'm scamming you right now!
Clip (Bill Edelin):
No, no your not. You've got, you're a very smart man, that's why I'm telling you this, because if you really listen to The Ledge and listen to the No Agenda podcast that you would start seeing these patterns that they talk about
Clip (Bill Edelin):
listen to the No Agenda Podcast
Clip (Shannon Burke):
Ughhh
Adam Curry:
Ughhh [sarcastically making fun of Shannon Burke in the clip]
Clip (Bill Edelin):
you start to see the patterns that they talk about
Clip (Shannon Burke):
OK, I, I Ugh
Clip (Bill Edelin):
they put such a unique spin on every story
Clip (Shannon Burke):
Bill, whether or not you know it, I am a very very well educated, highly educated man, highly degreed and ah, ah
Clip (Bill Edelin):
I agree
Adam Curry:
-Laughing-
John C. Dvorak:
Wooooo
Jingle:
Duchebag
Adam Curry:
-Laughing-
Jingle:
Bullshit
John C. Dvorak:
Highly educated
Adam Curry:
-Laughing-, -Deep Breath-, Good job Bill. I like it when they irritate other hosts that's good.
John C. Dvorak:
oh, that's better
Adam Curry:
-Laughing-
John C. Dvorak:
that is what Howard Stern, made a living out of that
Adam Curry:
but I can't believe the guy keeps him on, you know this is really good, he just keeps on irking him
John C. Dvorak:
Ahhh, ya listenin' to C-SPAN
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
So, he's obviously heard the show.
Adam Curry:
Of course
John C. Dvorak:
thinks we listen to C-SPAN too much and get the scoop
Adam Curry:
What an idiot.
John C. Dvorak:
But, he's a highly educated man and doesn't need anything like this. Ok, well.
Adam Curry:
a few domain name forwards as our database continues to grow. whybecause.ca
SFX:
slide whistle
Adam Curry:
is very good. And, we'll have some why-because stuff coming up later. Now that we've been tipped off to this neuro-linguistic programming that we first noticed with Rick Santorum.
Adam Curry:
This is really interesting how it's being used. When you say why? Because. And then it's like what? And, it's like..
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] Huh? What?
Adam Curry:
What? What? It's like, if you, we don't have enough donations. Why? Because we need you to donate.
Also, EthicalAdultEntertainment.com now forwarding to the noagendashow.com website. Very good. I think we are ethical adult entertainment. And BecauseGivingIsLoving.com along with an idea.
Adam Curry:
And this something we should talk about later on. One of our producers suggested
SFX:
slide whistle
Adam Curry:
that there's a great opportunity to have people donate two hundred and fourteen [214] dollars or some variation of it for Valentine's Day.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah
Adam Curry:
Why? Because nothing says I Love You More than a donation to the No Agenda Show. Why? Because..
John C. Dvorak:
That's true
Adam Curry:
donating
SFX:
slide whistle
Adam Curry:
is loving. So, I think that's uh, we'll chat more about that a little bit later on. And, of course, you can always do one thing, we all need to go out propagate our formula
Jingle:
Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth.
Jingle:
Our formula is this: we go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New! World! Order! Shut up, slaves!
John C. Dvorak:
Before we get into anything substanta-ta-tive..is that too many t's in there?
Adam Curry:
I dunno
John C. Dvorak:
I've spent some time this week listening to Current TV
John C. Dvorak:
'cause Olbermann quit, you know and..
Adam Curry:
Now, wait a minute. He quit? He's out? He's done?
John C. Dvorak:
and now apparently, Kermit, the frog is doing the show.
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. He's out? He's done? He's no longer there?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, he seems to have walked off. The show is still on.
Adam Curry:
[sighs] Alright, this better be good.
John C. Dvorak:
So, Kermit, the frog is doing the show now. I have a clip from that later. But, they also brought over some other guys from MSNBC who could not get any numbers at all
Adam Curry:
Chunk. Chunk. Chunk.
John C. Dvorak:
So, wisely they brought them over to-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, chunk. The chunk guy. Chunk. The Young Turks show. I got him, I caught him, he's, it's a terrible show and it looks like it's produced over at Rev3 to be honest about it
Adam Curry:
[laughs] No, I think Rev3 is produced better than Current
John C. Dvorak:
It's quite possible. It's very cheap production. It has cheap written all over it
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And uh, but I got him, caught him, and I had to listen to this over and over again, so I got the clip of him actually saying Booger T. Washington
Adam Curry:
[pffftt] Who, Chunk?
John C. Dvorak:
The show numbers are down and maybe people are looking for this sort of material.
Adam Curry:
What, Chunk said this?
John C. Dvorak:
Chunk said Booger T, so I have the clip of him saying it. Then I re-clipped just the Booger part, so you could hear that it WAS Booger, 'cause you could almost, maybe, said Booker T, but, no. There's no K in there, it's Booger. So he said Booger T. Washington, I thought it was abhorrent.
Adam Curry:
Can I say just one thing, you have way too much time on your hands.
John C. Dvorak:
Hit it
Clip:
Obviously, you know, tragic story of his apparent suicide this morning. So, um, think about, might as well start off the month with Don Cornelius, who was the creator...
John C. Dvorak:
You're playing, you're not playing the Booger T. Washington clip
Adam Curry:
You told me to play, oh I thought there was a long one first and then Booger T. Booger T? Fourteen [14] seconds?
Clip:
Alright, back on The Young Turks. Well, this morning we're talking with Jared Jackson, who is our long-time producer and he was saying 'you know? every network and station covers, uh, Black History Month in the same way. You find out about Booger T. Washington and like little snippets, etc.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
SFX:
booger/booger/booger
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
I misunderstood what you were doing. Booger, booger, booger [laughs] Yeah, that's the way to celebrate Black History Month alright, call the guy Booger T.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I thought it was insulting to all black people.
Adam Curry:
It was insulting to me! Booger, Booger T. Washington. Are you kidding me, Chunk? Oh my goodness. aaaAAHH!
John C. Dvorak:
And when you're saying his name, you would not, that's not what you would slur. You don't do that.
Adam Curry:
No, it's Booker T. Washington
John C. Dvorak:
You say Booker. It's not hard to say Booker.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Booger. So, the guy's never held an album cover in his hand by Booker T. Washington in his life, that's obvious.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's what it is.
Adam Curry:
Booger.
Speaking of albums, I've figured out a great promotion that's taking place right now. This is a two-parter. So we had an apparent meteorite crash into the Austin area the other night.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh
Adam Curry:
Did you not hear about this?
John C. Dvorak:
No, you'd think I would. You'd think somebody would have Twittered me or emailed me. Since they're obviously targeting you.
Adam Curry:
No, it's a big deal. So, of course.
John C. Dvorak:
Did they miss? They didn't hit the house.
Adam Curry:
So, there's all kinds of video of this. There's video from dash cams from cop cars, there's satellite imagery of it and, of course, it's not a meteorite. When you look at it. It's way too bright and way too low. It's either a drone flaming out, which probably is a real possibility.
John C. Dvorak:
I think you're going to see a lot of that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, or, the Mother Ship is sending off little baby ships. But, this is a two-parter and there is a PR promotion in here which, it took me to listen to it twice to figure it out.
By the way, the people who now do reports on meteorites crashing into Texas are apparently weathermen. They're now the experts on, they can't get a space guy anymore. [mimics] "Uhh, let Dan The Weatherman do the report." So, here's these two douche-bag idiots on CNN, these two [2] women who yap in the morning.
Clip:
You probably didn't see it up in the northeast, the northwest, but if you were in Texas or Oklahoma, what on earth was that streakin' across the night sky in those states? Check out the video from the police dash cam.
You know, I was going to sing some crazy song that, that had to, listen. It was a routine traffic stop that caught this. But, the FAA is now weighing-in on what that is. It is a meteor. That's the fireball.
Adam Curry:
So now the FAA all of a sudden is, they're weighing-in. They're the experts?
Adam Curry:
"Uh, it wasn't a drone or anything... it was a meteor, because we're the FAA."
They're not authorized to make this call.
Clip:
Actual meteor.
The reports came as far south as Waco, Texas, and as far north as Oklahoma City, of people saying, "Yikes."
Adam Curry:
"Yikes."
By the way, neither Micky nor I saw or...
Because apparently it made a "boom" as well.
It made a booming sound.
John C. Dvorak:
Hmm.
Adam Curry:
And we didn't hear it, 'cause...
John C. Dvorak:
Well, you're further south than Waco.
Adam Curry:
Not much.
A couple of people in the area heard it.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh.
Adam Curry:
We were drunk, so that's why we didn't, you know.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, well.
Adam Curry:
Maybe it as us [chuckling]
John C. Dvorak:
"What?"
Adam Curry:
Eh, what?
John C. Dvorak:
"Did you fart?"
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] Hold on.
Clip (Speaker 1):
...much more fun to say it was a UFO.
Adam Curry:
[mocking voice] "It's so much more fun to say it's a UFO."
Let's rule that out, okay, because the FAA says so.
Clip (Speaker 1):
[laughter]
Marcy Ann is in Atlanta with a national weather forecast...
Adam Curry:
Now, listen to this, because here's the PR moment, get ready for it.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Did you see it Rob?
Clip (Speaker 2):
No, but that's striking video...
Clip (Speaker 1):
It's good, huh?
Clip (Speaker 2):
It definitely looks more like a UFO that has a fireball around it.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Right.
Clip (Speaker 2):
But I'll take FAA's word on that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah the FAA the experts on UFOs. Yeah, it's not a UFO it's a meteorite, FAA knows.
Clip (Speaker 1):
And now there's picture, uh, from space actually, the dark side of the moon, check this out. Ebb and Flow it's the twin satellite project of grail that's orbiting the moon right now to take some of the images that we don't see down here.
Cause we only see, well, the lit side of the moon, the one that faces us this is the dark side, the elusive one.
Adam Curry:
The dark side of the MOON what could that mean john? The dark side of the moon?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I have a clip.
Adam Curry:
Oh boy you didn't, oh boy.. alright
John C. Dvorak:
I don't get the clip you're getting. I just got a clip... I have a different angle on this... but go on Mr. Cynic.
Adam Curry:
No no, I wanna hear your angle and then I'll tell you what it's really all about
John C. Dvorak:
I don't have an angle, except that I think there's something going on about how dumb they think the public is, cause this is Sheperd Smith and a dumb news item.
Adam Curry:
[laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
Who say, uh, for one thing he says "little green men have landed" and he says "I'm just kidding" and then he explains the dark side of the moon as if no one has been to the third grade.
Clip (Shepard Smith):
And were getting a rare glimpse of the far side of the moon, we found the little green men... not really. Today, NASA released this video shot from a space craft out there somewhere. Scientists say the moon is "tidally locked," meaning one side always faces earth so we rarely get to see the dark side, the dark side of the moon.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, okay so Pink Floyd is re-releasing there album, remastered, including:
John C. Dvorak:
Dark Side of the Moon.
Adam Curry:
Dark Side of the Moon. This is, like so obvious. This, [laughing] this was like an obvious one. All I had to do is one Google search and boom, I'm there.
[laughs]
They're doing a re-release that's why this is PR. And I know what happened on this Shepard Smith first said, you know "The far side" and then so the producer went, "shshsh, hey we're not going to get paid if you don't say 'dark side'" and Shepard Smith said "Oh yeah right, it's the Dark Side of the Moon"
John C. Dvorak:
And it's not dark. How is it the dark side when it was lit up and they showed a picture of it? Hello?
Adam Curry:
Cause it's not, it's PR for the Floyd re-release.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, obviously.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] It's so easy... This stuff is so easy.
John C. Dvorak:
It's unbelievable to me that they would run that piece at all, and uh..
Adam Curry:
They can pay for it, John!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah I know what you're saying, and there's probably a connection too. It's either a product placement, which I think they're starting to drop in news items now constantly.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, oh yeah, well.
John C. Dvorak:
Especially the people who are in the entertainment business. They're the ones who are the sleaziest of the whole crowd.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, exactly.
I have that Shephard clip, That Shepherd Smith clip since we're talking about him, the one, since there's more PR going on. This is the one I didn't have on Sunday's broadcast.
Clip:
[Music]
Clip (Shepard Smith):
From Fox this Wednesday night, SEAL Team Six (6) has done it again. Last night, officials say a team of SEALs, not the ones who captured Usama bin Laden
Adam Curry:
Whoops! Captured. Captured? Or killed?
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing] Yes, well you better, I know you've been scrounging to get that one.
Adam Curry:
So I got that clip, and of course, it was so easy to figure out. This is another promotion. For the SEAL Team Six (6) movie that's coming out. The trailer's everywhere.
John C. Dvorak:
Eh.
Adam Curry:
The Valor Movie or whatever it's called.
John C. Dvorak:
Fox is the worst at this. I mean I..
Adam Curry:
They need to get less obvious about it. Really. And by the way, there is no such thing called Team SEAL Six (6). That is a ficticious name. That is not the actual name of this outfit. That's a movie name.
Adam Curry:
And now they've got this, you know, you see the trailers and "The Making Of", it's everywhere. It's coming out in, like, in two weeks or whatever.
This is all PR, ladies and gentlemen. This has nothing to do with--
John C. Dvorak:
It's not news.
Adam Curry:
NO! And I, I'm, since we still haven't seen this woman--
John C. Dvorak:
And-- And-- And the Shepherd Smith piece about the dark side of the moon, he says -- he doesn't even bother telling what kind of space ship -- he says "some spaceship out there".
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
If you listen to it, there are no details. It's like apparently some random spaceship that's just roaming around.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
I mean that would actually be news
Adam Curry:
Random.
John C. Dvorak:
To have some facts.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Just some thing that's out there. We don't know who owns it or whatever. Maybe George Clooney's flying it. Yeah, that's possible.
John C. Dvorak:
It's ridiculous.
Adam Curry:
But, the movie industry and politics and news, is so intertwined these days.
A great example from Australia: There's a member of parliament there. I did get his name. Anthony Albanese.
Adam Curry:
Uhh, let me just see, hold on a second, he is -- this is for our Australian -- our Australian listeners will get a kick out of this:
He serves as the Leader of the House of Representatives and Minister for Infrastructure and Transport in the Gillard Ministry. And he's been there since March 1996. So he gives a speech, and, ah, you're going to hear this exact same speech, right after he's done. This is like, ahh, a piece of his speech, like twenty seconds.
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
And you'll hear the, I'm not going to give it away, but you'll hear the exact same speech by someone else, right after it.
Clip (Anthony Albanese):
In Australia we have serious challenges to solve and we need serious people to solve them. Unfortunately, Tony Abbott is not the least bit interested in fixing anything. He's only interested in two things: making Australians afraid of it, and telling them who's to blame for it.
Clip (Michael Douglas):
We have serious problems to solve. And we need serious people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is, I promise you - Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it.
Clip (Michael Douglas):
He is interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
Michael Douglas in "The American President". The exact same speech!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Which one came first, what's the dates?
Adam Curry:
Oh, The American President is a long time ago.
John C. Dvorak:
So they just basically stole it from a movie, these guys?
Adam Curry:
Yes!
John C. Dvorak:
This Australian guy?
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
How embarrassing.
Adam Curry:
It's hilarious.
John C. Dvorak:
I wonder how much material they lift from movies, thinking nobody's going to notice.
Adam Curry:
Well no one watched this movie, so, I mean
John C. Dvorak:
Well, then I guess you find a movie no one watches and you've got it made.
Adam Curry:
I watched it. I have to say. I liked the movie. But yeah, I think, um
Wasn't that the one where he dies and then, ah, S-Sarah--Susan Sarandon becomes the president?
John C. Dvorak:
I never saw the movie.
Adam Curry:
I did. It was a good movie. I like Michael Douglas.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, he always, he chooses his movies well.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
But then, to have that lifted, I mean, why don't we just have Michael Douglas just get an Australian accent and he can be the politician. Oh wait a minute, we already do that here, we already have actors as politicians.
Crazy. Just crazy.
So we had, ah, I'm so tired of the X-Factor. Of the contest, as it's now being called continuously on all the news channels.
[Imitating] This contest, this contest, this contest
Adam Curry:
And now it actually is turning into an X-Factor/American Idol where we got people singing!
And we get the contestants singing in this thing, John. We got Obama singing, we've got Mitt Romney singing, we've got people joking about Newt Gingrich should sing. And could it get any more obvious what's going on here?
Eh, just make-- let 'em sing! Screw it.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing] Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Adam Curry:
It's horrible. And there's no real analysis, there was, um, that was actually kind of interesting, umm
Adam Curry:
What's his name, Soros?
[George Soros Imitation] Ehh. I'm George Sor--
[Laughs] Once I heard him, I'm like really working on trying to, like, perfect my Soros voice. Um, hold on a second, where is he...
Ahh, Soros--
John C. Dvorak:
You can also make that same voice because I saw him on Book TV this last week. Zabrinskie.
Adam Curry:
Oh, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
He had the same voice.
Adam Curry:
You never see those two guys in the same picture, actually, now that I think about it.
Adam Curry:
[George Soros voice] So I use the George Soros
John C. Dvorak:
No, no. You sound like Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog again.
Adam Curry:
[Continuing] Here is, here is George Soros.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing] It's not George, this is the dog!
Adam Curry:
[Trying to get the voice right] Here is George, Soros.
John C. Dvorak:
To poop on!
Adam Curry:
This is, I am in Davos. And I am talking about Obama, and Romney.
Clip (George Soros):
Comes in.
Adam Curry:
Comes in. There you are. I get it now.
John C. Dvorak:
To poop on!
Adam Curry:
To poop on!
Clip (George Soros):
If it's between Obama and Romney, there isn't all that much difference.
Adam Curry:
[Soros Voice] I love this clip! There isn't all that much difference, but what is the difference, then Soros?
Clip (George Soros):
Except for the crowd that they bring with them.
Adam Curry:
[Soros voice] Different bankers.
Clip (George Soros):
Romney would have to take Gingrich or Santorum as a Vice President, and--
Adam Curry:
Now listen to this. Listen very carefully.
Clip (George Soros):
--he would probably have some pretty extreme candidates for the Supreme Court. So that's the, the downside.
Clip (George Soros):
On the other side, the Obama administration, is a bit exhausted. So it's not all that strong. So it's, it won't be that great a difference. And, I think, there won't be a great deal of enthusiasm on either side of the battleground. It will be more civilized than the previous elections ha--
Adam Curry:
So there you go. Soros is just basically calling it. It's just going to be Romney. We all know it.
John C. Dvorak:
Romney and Santorum, he says, which is kind of interesting.
Adam Curry:
Or Gingrich. He says "or Gingrich".
John C. Dvorak:
Well, Gingrich is never going to be a VP. In fact ah, Gingrich is not going to show up anywhere near the White House according this woman, who -- and I never thought about this. She claims that there's, like, a secret society of
Adam Curry:
No!
John C. Dvorak:
Well she didn't quite say it like that, but that's the way I interpreted it.
Adam Curry:
[Amused] No!
John C. Dvorak:
Of first wives. That are not going to let Callista anywhere near the White House because she's a horrible third wife and is just bad by nature. Read, ah, play "haters be hating".
Adam Curry:
I have to say, she is, ah, she is rather frightening.
John C. Dvorak:
She's freaky, yeah.
Adam Curry:
Alright. Haters be hatin'. Here we go.
Clip (Jennifer from Mesa, Arizona):
[Inaudible] Well I think it's about time for the Republicans to shove it back down their throat. Why, why didn't the media, Susan, talk about John Kerry only paying thirteen point one (13.1%), um, in income tax? That's all he paid. I think, and, and, I can't even believe Newt Gingrich. You just wait. It's not over yet. Wait 'til the first wives club gets involved. They're not gonna let Callista Gingrich be a first lady.
Clip (Jennifer from Mesa, Arizona):
We would never have that in our life, and we don't want that stain on the Republican Party.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Alright,
Clip (Jennifer from Mesa, Arizona):
Thank you.
Clip (Speaker 2):
We're gonna get stuck there, Jennifer calling from Mesa Arizona and the last word--
Adam Curry:
That was on C-SPAN, on the call-in show.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Where is everybody calling in on that show and saying No Agenda? C'mon.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know, I have no idea why nobody
Adam Curry:
C'mon. C'mon. It's so easy.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't think anybody but us watches C-SPAN. I don't think half the people who listen to our show even know what we're talking about when we say C-SPAN.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] They're like --
John C. Dvorak:
"Oh I dunno, they're watching something. Maybe it's over in France."
Adam Curry:
[Soros voice] What is that C-SPAN they keep referring to?
John C. Dvorak:
It must be in France.
Adam Curry:
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz goes on the--
John C. Dvorak:
Ohh, this woman is the most annoying woman in the whole administration.
Adam Curry:
Now, she's in charge of the Democratic National Committee.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
So she's a bigwig. She's also, is she a congresswoman, I think, congresswoman? Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. She's from Florida I think. I could be wrong. I'll look it up.
Adam Curry:
She really lays it out. And it's obvious why she's on Rachel Maddow's show. We know Rachel Maddow is the biggest money whore there is when it comes to this. Because, I've really been paying attention, ever since you pointed out,
Adam Curry:
on the past show or two, about how much money is really being shoved into the media from all of these super PACs and all these commercials and advertisements. And she basically lays it out, and I think she is correct, although, you know, she should be careful because this is exactly how they do it to.
Clip (Speaker 1):
[Female voice] Well, I think they've probably got a ways to go before there is a uh, a clear nominee. You know, what Mitt Romney did tonight was essentially buy the Republican primary victory that he got.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Thirteen thousand (13,000) ads to two hundred (200) ads for Gingrich. Only about, ah, point one percent (0.1%) of those ads were positive, I mean he really carpet-bombed Newt Newt Gingrich. And so all that says is that he drowned him in in negative advertising.
And, so as the race progresses I think it'll continue to be clear, that there is a dramatic contrast between Mitt Romney and the Republican field.
Adam Curry:
So there it is. He spent about nine million dollars (USD 9,000,000) on ads.
Adam Curry:
What's interesting though, is I rarely see the ads as ads. Where do I see the ads? When CNN or Fox News shows them and says, "look at this latest negative attack ad". This is such a scam. This whole thing is all about money flowing into the media companies.
The more you have the more they feature you the more they talk about you the more you get on the air with them, it's just sad.
John C. Dvorak:
It's a total scam!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it really is.
John C. Dvorak:
That's the scam we should be involved in.
Adam Curry:
Well.
John C. Dvorak:
We should have a small media company to do nothing, but take political ad money.
Adam Curry:
Scam. Just scam. Let's just do a scam.
John C. Dvorak:
You know, hey yeah, you know, we think, we'll give, who's, I don't know who we're going to give our endorsement to.
And I've seen a lot of that now.
Ahh, I'm not going to endorse him yet.
Adam Curry:
And why the hell is Herman Cain on television all of a sudden again?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Yeah, there's something up with him.
Adam Curry:
With his big smiling pie hole.
Adam Curry:
And, he's like, he comes on, he endorses, um, Gingrich, but no one says, "Hey. By the way, how's that philandering working out for you that made you drop out of the race?"
Now he's just become a clown. An official clown. He was a clown, but now it's official.
And Sarah Palin. My goodness. Look at the woman's face. Did she get her chip implanted? Did MKUltra finally kick in? This woman is really a robot now. And I've, I've defended Sarah Palin.
John C. Dvorak:
I think she got some work done. That's why she was all, that's why she was off the radar for so long.
Adam Curry:
Ahh.
Adam Curry:
Oh, that's possible.
John C. Dvorak:
It takes about two months to get the bruises--
Adam Curry:
Oh no, that's not true. Bullcrap. My ex-wife. Had work done. I shall refrain from explaining. The doctor would always say, "Ohh, you'll have some bruising for a couple of weeks, then it'll be fine."
Three months minimum. On anything you do. It's three months. It just takes three months. It's not two weeks.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, it's been about three months since we've --
Adam Curry:
yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
-- seen Palin.
ac. Interesting. We should take -- it's just, something's weird about her face.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah! They pulled it back and she's got that
John C. Dvorak:
stupid lift look which is --
Adam Curry:
Yeah, right,
John C. Dvorak:
-- going to make her end up looking her look, what, weird.
Adam Curry:
She looks surprised.
John C. Dvorak:
With a kind of a slash-mouth.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, she looked surprised. Surprised the whole time. [Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, and you look surprised, especially in the early days until it sags back down a little.
So, you look normal for a very short time.
And then, you know, 'oh god, this needs to be redone,' because you have to do.
I think, I forget what the cycle is, I think the first lift lasts like seven years, or, used to be fourteen, then seven, then three and a half, then every year. So you'd have to start getting work done every year. So you would always--
Adam Curry:
No, no. That's not how it works. What happens is, you get the first work done. And then you're like, "Well, wait a minute, now my ears don't match my forehead".
Oh, then "the bags on the eyes are gone, but now I've got little things above the eye". And it just keeps on going. It's like, if you're modelling someone's face out of clay.
John C. Dvorak:
It's like a nightmare!
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] There you go, twenty years of my life. What can I tell ya?
John C. Dvorak:
So, -- well that would be, well you're getting to speak from experience, I'm only speaking from theory.
John C. Dvorak:
And, all I know is that you're not supposed to have a facelift until you're, your first facelift, if you're ever going to do one, this is a recommendation for everyone, you should be at ninety two (92) years old.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
Jingle:
Hey, citizen.
Adam Curry:
Ninety two. (92). I'm going to schedule it now.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, you're looking good for a while.
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
I'll look great!
John C. Dvorak:
You'll look great in a coffin.
Adam Curry:
Thanks, dude.
John C. Dvorak:
Well that depends how long you go. I mean, if the first one lasts a decade and you go to one oh two (102), you're still looking good. You know, sounds OK.
John C. Dvorak:
OK, that makes sense. Cause yeah, you get it done, and then something does, it's not quite right, and of course the business itself is designed to get you to keep doing it.
Adam Curry:
Of course, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
So they never do it right, so you have to keep fixing it.
Adam Curry:
Megyn Kelly. Megyn Kelly from Fox is gonna go next.
John C. Dvorak:
You think?
Adam Curry:
Oh, definitely. She's already, I mean, I know this so well. First of all, I grew up with women. Second of all, I have all this experience. First they starve themselves. Megyn Kelly is now starving herself.
Adam Curry:
And, um the only one who's really doing it properly actually is Erin Burnett.
But you know, she can't stand up. She needs to be seated.
And again, people, we're talking as television executives here, not as, you know, men who would be rude to women.
John C. Dvorak:
Not as sensitive males,
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
that we are.
Adam Curry:
No. Not as a bi-curious male. Um. But yeah, no, you watch. She's going to go on hiatus for a couple of months.
And she's going to come back and have all kinds of work done, because it's an obsession. It is an absolute obsession. I've seen it time and time again. You'll see.
Adam Curry:
The only one who's not going to do anything, and is over that hump and is doing it well, is Candy Crowley.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing] Oh please!
Adam Curry:
Yeah but that's the
John C. Dvorak:
It's ridiculous. She's like given up on herself.
Adam Curry:
But that's OK. And by the way, I think
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no, I guess from your
Adam Curry:
Yeah, she's beautiful for that very reason. She's normal.
John C. Dvorak:
From a healthy perspective,
Adam Curry:
Yes!
John C. Dvorak:
Candy Crowley, who just looks like hell,
Adam Curry:
[Sniggering]
John C. Dvorak:
Seriously. From an executive perspective, not from a
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
But she has, no no, she appeals to a huge demographic of real women.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, who aren't going to put themselves through this agony.
Adam Curry:
Exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no. the thing is, is you're going to get this--. And I wouldn't, you know, Palin is an old bathing beauty. She was a, you know, she was a competitive--
Adam Curry:
She was verrrrry sexy when she was young. She was very sexy. And I thought she was sexy four years ago. And I was watching her on, somewhere, it must have been on Fox obviously, and was like oh my gosh, she just looks like crap.
Adam Curry:
And, she looks tired and yeah, it's just not good. Not that her eyes look tired, but you know, just tired of uhh, it could be tiring having everything pulled back tight. Anyway, who gives a crap.
Uh, Diane Feinstein, let's talk about her for a second. I've been tracking Diane Feinstein ever since the White House Insider and the Wall Street Insider and ever since we actually found out she popped the Osama bin Laden capture-or-kill hours before the President announced it on television after apparently the Democrats had one of their biggest financial consultants go rogue.
Adam Curry:
They had him killed. We been talkin' about this, because that guy probably found out that there are two [2] Obama's or something. But, he had information. So they've been messin' with Feinstein.
They stole her campaign fund money, and I don't know if you had time to watch it. I'm only through half of it at this point, but they had the Security Council meeting the, uh, Security Committee meeting.
Adam Curry:
Which Feinstein, of course, is the chair of it. So she's big bwana. And we've talked about the CIA being in a war with Obama.
And, she comes out in her opening statement, John, I was blown away by this:
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
There are a couple of things I want to add and, I'm not sure this is a good place, but I'm gonna do it anyway. In this morning's edition of the Los Angeles Times, there was an article asserting that CIA director David Petraeus has been inaccessible and guarded in his interactions with Congress,
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
and with the Intelligence Committee's in particular since being sworn in last September. As far as I'm concerned, nothing could be farther from the truth. And I believe the ranking member, the Vice Chairman, would agree with that. I spoke to the
Adam Curry:
So, right off the bat, there, that's very interesting. Because the Washington Post is of course corrupt and they took, you know, sources.
Adam Curry:
And, they basically said, 'Ah, you know, this guy's' and you know, Petreaus, 'Ah, he's not there' you know, 'The CIA is crap..'
John C. Dvorak:
Did she say the Washington Post?
Adam Curry:
Yes, she said the Washington Post
John C. Dvorak:
Could you play it again, 'cause I'm wondering why I heard the Los Angeles Times. I'm just baffled by that.
Adam Curry:
I thought she said Post
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I know, but I heard the Times and I wanna hear it again so I can figure out why I misheard it
Adam Curry:
Maybe I'm mistaken
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
There are a couple of things I want to add
Adam Curry:
I could be wrong
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
And I'm not sure this a good place, but I'm gonna do it anyway. In this morning's edition of the Los Angeles Times
Adam Curry:
I'm sorry. You're right. I was wrong. Well, Los Angeles Times is corrupt too.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] Why?
Adam Curry:
What?
John C. Dvorak:
It would made more sense if it were the Washington Post. 'Cause they would know. What was the Los Angeles times, I mean
Adam Curry:
Oh, here's what happened. I think I saw the same report in the Washington Post and that's why I got confused. 'Cause Washington Post will, they all repeat each other, copy/paste
John C. Dvorak:
Actually, the Los Angeles Times tends to rerun, because they're a subscriber to the Washington Post news service
Adam Curry:
Interesting
John C. Dvorak:
I'll have to look where that story originated from.
John C. Dvorak:
Look it up while you're talking.
Adam Curry:
But she, yes, she starts by saying 'I don't know if I should talk about this here.' That's a message. Hello? Attention. I'm about to discredit your crappy-ass media plant that you tried to put out there. But, then she really pulls out the dagger.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
and guarded in his interactions with Congress. And with the Intelligence Committees in particular, since being sworn in last September.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
As far as I'm concerned, nothing could be farther from the truth. And, I believe the ranking member, the Vice-Chairman would agree with that.
I spoke to the reporter last Friday, and made very-
Adam Curry:
And check that out; She called the reporter. That's big. Diane Feinstein calling you?
Saying, "Hey! I don't know what [the] Obama Camp is telling you, but you're wrong!"
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
-clear to him, that this has not been my experience, or to the best of my knowledge, the members of this committee.
Adam Curry:
Ah, good point in the chatroom:
Adam Curry:
The L.A. Times is owned by the Chicago Tribune. That would explain it, wouldn't it?
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, Chicago, yeah.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
If it had been, I would have heard. Director Petraeus has appeared before us every month since becoming Director. And the Vice Chairman, and I have had several phone calls. and other meetings with him.
Adam Curry:
Now, stand by.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
He has upheld his obligation to keep the committee fully, and currently informed.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
And I regret that some people felt the need to engage in anonymous complaints.
Adam Curry:
Some people.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
I'd also like to say, that once again this committee has been put in a difficult position of trying to avoid any mention of classified matters, when various parts of the executive branch may be doing somewhat the opposite.
I ask members to be careful in their questions and statements.
Clip (Diane Feinstein):
And, to remember that public discussion of some intelligence programs and assets can lead to them being compromised.
Adam Curry:
So, that in to me is not an innocuous statement. That is a big deal for her to say the executive branch, i.e. the White House, is exposing CIA operations and, therefore creating a risk to compromise of our assets.
I think that's a big deal for her to say that.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I'd say!
Adam Curry:
So, there's a war going on that we are not fully aware of, other than what we-
John C. Dvorak:
She's obviously in the middle of it.
Adam Curry:
She, well, she
John C. Dvorak:
She seems very annoyed.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
She always seems very annoyed. Um, so uh. I'll finish the rest of that committee hearing, there may be more. I think, I read somewhere, I haven't hit that point yet in the C-SPAN recording that she says that, she and Petraeus, had a meeting with Mossad in Washington, DC, a secret meeting.
But, she actually said it in this hearing somewhere.
Adam Curry:
Which, you know what that means, that means that war with Iran is imminent.
And it's going to be a drone war.
jd: Well, we did have a correspondent, uh. one of our, uh
Adam Curry:
I've got another one.
jd: Okay, why don't you go through those right now?
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
I also wanted to mention that this uh, Ken Dilanian, I guess is the way it is pronounced, uh.
Adam Curry:
Who wrote the article?
John C. Dvorak:
Wrote the article; used to be with USA Today as a Congressional correspondent, a Rome correspondent, investigative reporter, political reporter at the Philadelphia Inquirer.
Adam Curry:
Huh.
Adam Curry:
huh, that's where all the spies are, in Philly.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it must be something, it's hard to say what his connections are. I don't see anything noticeable. I'm lookin' at his Linkedin profile.
Adam Curry:
So I got, regarding Iran, "Adam and John, I was listening to your last show and wanted to give you some info on the troops being deployed to Iran." Now we have already had someone else say this to us, which we got a lot of good information. Could be disinfo, but I think this, I hold this to be valid and credible.
Adam Curry:
Info about the troops being deployed to Iran:
"I work with an establishment with military who have come back from Iraq and Afghanistan over the past few years. I was working with these guys closely on a day-to-day basis who are still all around my age, we get to know these guys pretty well.
As a No-Agenda listener, I listen closely when they talk to me about the things they have seen or done in the Middle East. I've come across only three of these guys who claim to have worked in Iran while overseas. They say we have had special forces in Iran for quite some time now, mostly doing recon [recognizance] missions."
Adam Curry:
Each of them are top secret, and the public is not supposed to know about it. These are white American males who are trained to speak Farsi and dress like the Iranians, depending on what region of Iran they are deployed to, and allowed to grow beards to fit in.
When I asked them how they wouldn't look to be suspicious to Iranians, they generally said that, first of all, they spend most of their time in deserts and mountain regions where the population is sparse, and they only interact with the people if they have to, and they make it real quick.
Also, they tend to send soldiers with Middle Eastern features, or better yet, any American-Iranian who made it through special forces training.
Adam Curry:
First time I heard this from one of the soldiers I could hardly believe it, but hearing a similar story from three different ones, it interested me. I've been wanting to send this to you for some time now, but didn't know if I should, but hearing the last show about the girlfriends boyfriend, I just thought that I had to let you know." So boots are all on the ground now.
John C. Dvorak:
This is not a surprise though.
Adam Curry:
It's not a surprise but it is interesting to note because, you know, we've had some assassinations. We've had all sorts of weird stuff going on...
John C. Dvorak:
Where we had the students from the University of California caught in those same mountains that these guys are hanging out.
Adam Curry:
Hikers, hikers.
John C. Dvorak:
And for all we know it's just to exchange a thumb drive.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Internet in a suitcase, passin' it off to ya now.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, or something.
I mean, who knows? I mean, we never find out, and it's only speculation. And then, we had that guy that was recently arrested, who was uh,
Adam Curry:
Yeah. So, it was all of a sudden it was just a student.
John C. Dvorak:
texting his mom.
Adam Curry:
He's just a student. He's a student! He's not a spy or an asset, he's a student.
A new key- new code word to look out for. Student.
John C. Dvorak:
They used to use "journalist." "journalist" nobody buys anymore.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
It's like "Journalist? You ARE a spy!"
Adam Curry:
You're the only true journalist I actually know, you and Molly Wood actually, I think she's a real journalist... She would be a great spy wouldn't she?
John C. Dvorak:
Well she looks more like the spy type.
Adam Curry:
She was on CBS this morning talking about that Facebook IPO. She looked smoking hot.
Adam Curry:
Well she's very intelligenic, so she should.
John C. Dvorak:
Like leave your fiancee hot.
Adam Curry:
You going to leave your fiancee for her?
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
No.
jd: It's what you said.
Adam Curry:
I said that's how hot she looked.
John C. Dvorak:
Uhh [mumble]
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
No, I already discussed this with Micky. She agrees.
John C. Dvorak:
What? Threesome?
Adam Curry:
No, man. Hot tub!
[laughter]
Jingle:
Hey, citizen.
Adam Curry:
South by South West [SxSW], baby.
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I got a clip from, you'd have to go back, because now that you brought up this- because she'd be a good CIA agent, I do have a clip that kind of applies.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
But it came in the last show and you didn't play it.
Adam Curry:
Oh.
John C. Dvorak:
Which is, and it's one of the more interesting clips. Um, I have to- and I think we should play it, because it has a funny punch line. Um, ah, let me just look at your uh,
Adam Curry:
Is it Booger T Washington? Is that the clip [laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
No, but you can play that again while I'm looking.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip:
Back on the Young Turks: Well, this morning we're talking with Jared Jackson, who is our long-time producer and he was saying, 'You know, every network and station covers, uh, Black History Month in the same way. You find out about Booger T. Washington and like little snippets, etc. Booger, booger, booger!
Adam Curry:
So do I have to go back to the archive of the last show, is that what you're telling me as I usually delete the ones we don't play.
John C. Dvorak:
Ahh, well it will still be in your email, you can just pull it down that way.
Adam Curry:
nahhh, I think I might have deleted all of the email. It's archived somewhere but not on this machine if you really need it.
John C. Dvorak:
ahhh, never mind, it's not that important.
Adam Curry:
all right, sorry about that,
John C. Dvorak:
it's a funny line though and it has to do with good looking women on the CIA, which apparently there is quite a few.
Adam Curry:
well yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
This guy this guy was, it's the story about the Gloc.
Adam Curry:
Ohh!
John C. Dvorak:
It's very interesting.
Adam Curry:
Right, I saw this- no, I didn't play those.
John C. Dvorak:
It's "Glock Story, pt. 2." It's a little long.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I don't have it.
John C. Dvorak:
But they apparently they- the guys who were promoting the Glock gun, which is uh, you know a plastic gun that they- everyone was buying left and right.
They decided to make- do a big deal at the shot show, which is a huge trade show in Las Vegas.
So, they- they used it to wine and dine all the buyers from all the police departments and everybody at the Atlanta Gold Club.
John C. Dvorak:
And there's a bunch of anecdotes about that, so they decided they guy who is the marketing guy is a genius.
Um, apparently much better at marketing our show.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
And, the guy decides to get the best looking girl at the Gold Club among the three-hunded [300] strippers, and decide to have her as the spokesperson at the show and promote the heck of of his- this all- apparently it packed the booth in because the girl's so gorgeous.
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Of course! Isn't that exactly what you do?
John C. Dvorak:
They said they had to train her at the Glock facilities so she new how to use the gun.
John C. Dvorak:
so she could take it apart. So, they put her in there with a bunch of police guys, international agents, and all this other stuff. But, they didn't have the guts to tell them that these guys were training with a stripper.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
So he said everybody just assumed she was with the CIA.
Adam Curry:
Oh perfect, oh perfect. I'm scanning to see if we can find that clip.
John C. Dvorak:
That's okay. It's too long to play. I just played it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah you did
John C. Dvorak:
Alright, onward
Adam Curry:
Yes, well I had a weird dream last night actually.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and uh,
John C. Dvorak:
Was it a vivid dream? Was it drug induced?
Adam Curry:
No, it was a very vivid dream and uh
John C. Dvorak:
It was a vivid dream, so you don't actually know if it was real or not. That vivid.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Well, no. I know it was, intellectually I know it was a dream. But there was someone we know and respect. And I don't know who it was, but it was like some guy
John C. Dvorak:
Someone we both know and both respect?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's a very short list
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] Yeah, two guys!
Adam Curry:
And uh,
John C. Dvorak:
And one of them I'm sketchy about.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] But, he was warning me. And he was saying, look you know, uh, they know what you guys are doin', you're gettin' too close. Kinda like the Icarus flying too close to the sun? And you can't go back now, they're going to try and get you.
John C. Dvorak:
Well they're going to do it by choking off our funding.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Well, it's working. It was really weird and I woke up this morning and there were two [2] chem trails in the sky.
Adam Curry:
I don't know if that had anything to do with it.
John C. Dvorak:
hah ha
Adam Curry:
Which we never have, really, in Austin. And they were in the wrong direction. 'Cause we have two [2] flights a day basically coming over house. That's about it. And they all come from a different direction.
John C. Dvorak:
hmm
Adam Curry:
And there were two chem trail streaks just hanging there. So I don't know, maybe they chem trailed me at night, I had these dreams or they programmed me to say, look why? Because you just gotta stop. Whatever. It was weird
John C. Dvorak:
It may be this Feinstein thing you're onto. Something's up.
Adam Curry:
That, I think is huge. That thing is really big. You know - yeah well. Uh.
John C. Dvorak:
And, you know, by the way, getting close. We only get as close as C-SPAN allows us.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
The rest of it is all analysis.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Indeed, we do. Um, I got a great clip here from one of our Gitmo Nation East producers.
Adam Curry:
And I'll remind you a lot of this program is people all around the globe, because of our reach who send us stuff.
And, there's a Member of Parliament, Michael Gove, G-O-V-E, he's the Minister of Education in Gitmo Nation East.
And they had this - this is fro ma BBC podcast where they were asking him questions. And um, the clip by itself in funny, but then we consulted the Book of Knowledge and it gets a little frightening.
Clip:
During the session, a number of MPs put to him questions that have been posted on Twitter.
Adam Curry:
Twitter!
Clip:
This question has been put on by the Committee Chair, Brian Stewart
Clip (Brian Stewart):
If you could be any James Bond villain,
[laughter]
which one would you be?
Clip (Michael Gove):
Gosh!
Clip:
There followed a lengthy silence before Michael Gove came up with an answer. He would be:
Hugo Drax.
Clip (Michael Gove):
Wasn't it Hugo Drax who was responsible for um, um the rocket in Moonraker, is that right? And, the Parliamentary Committee class is nodding.
Clip (Brian Stewart):
Spot on, answering the question, but I have no idea
[laughter]
Clip (Michael Gove):
I think, Scaramanga had an interest in ballistics um,
Clip (Michael Gove):
But, I think that having an interest in um, rocket science is probably more appropriate.
Clip:
The Education Secretary halted there, after one committee member that his advisers sitting nearby, seemed keen for him to stop talking.
Adam Curry:
And they reason why they seemed keen to stop talking, is because everyone's like, "Dra- uh, uh, we got to be Hugo Drax? uh, uh, let me consult the Book of Knowledge."
So yes, Hugo Drax was the villain in Moonraker, but the master plan was to destroy the human race
Adam Curry:
Except for a small group of carefully selected humans, both male and female, who would leave Earth on 6 shuttles, and have sanctuary on a space station.
so, this is the Minister of Education who wants to be the guy who kills everybody.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] Oh, brother!
Adam Curry:
I mean, what a douche!
Or!
John C. Dvorak:
I would have been Octopussy. [laughter]
Adam Curry:
Or, [laughter]. Or, is he actually meaning this?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, it's obviously in the back of his mind. I mean, I would have out of the blue pulled up Hugo Drax unless I saw the movie the day before which seems highly unlikely.
I don't remember that name until you brought it up. It's not one of the great villans, I mean he's, the story line it works out but you know I always think of BLowfeld i mean that to me is the only guy I can remember that's a great villan in the Bond series.
Adam Curry:
I always think of blow-fly but that just me..
John C. Dvorak:
That's a different story.
Adam Curry:
So anyway, that's very nice to know that they ahh, education minister in the United Kingdom - wants to kill everybody.
John C. Dvorak:
That's reminiscent, did you see this movie going around the net on Chem Trails?
Adam Curry:
Which one? I think I've seen them all.
John C. Dvorak:
Well the one we got recently, which discusses the meetings that were taking place, putting the aluminium dust in the air..
Adam Curry:
Yeah, "what the hell on earth are they spraying?" you mean that one?
John C. Dvorak:
yeah. because of the-
x: Chem Trails,
Adam Curry:
Sorry, I slipped.
John C. Dvorak:
Their trying to cut down on Chem Trail- nice goin', you got me..
John C. Dvorak:
They're trying to cut down on global warming, so their gonna put this shit in the air to cloud up the place,
Adam Curry:
Yes. Yeah, that's the excuse.
John C. Dvorak:
And, it's all sub-micron particles which are actually toxic so as they come to Earth, no matter what you do you breathe them in, you're poisoning the entire world, the globe.
Adam Curry:
Yes, yes. Yeah, what about it?
John C. Dvorak:
Probably trying to kill us all..
Adam Curry:
Oh well, finally it's taken me five years but he finally comes around ladies and gentlemen.
John C. Dvorak:
Mo, no no I'm not coming around at all, I'm just saying..
Adam Curry:
You are definitely-
John C. Dvorak:
naw no, no. I'm not coming around at all, I'm just saying this is suspicious
Adam Curry:
You are busted. Busted. You're busted. You're comin' around.
you:
re comin' around.
[laughs]
Good one, we gotcha.
Ladies and gentlemen, another chem trail truther, John C. Dvorak.
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, you're the one, your chem trail theory has always been they're spraying weird chemicals in the air so they can sedate the public, so nobody complains too much, instead of killing off the public
Adam Curry:
It seems to be working. Doesn't it?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, you've got a pretty passive group out there, that's for sure.
Jingle:
[childs voice] Hey citizen
Adam Curry:
The kids are gettin' in on it now. Well...
John C. Dvorak:
OK, what other lively news do we have?
Adam Curry:
Well, there was some stuff going on with Lucifer. Lucifer's been back.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, before we go off into that, let's go back and slow it down a little bit. 'Cause I do have another, I wanna get "Chenk" out of the way.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Not "Chenk," Chunk! His name is Chunk.
John C. Dvorak:
Chenk, Chunck, whatever his name is, that Young Turks guy. He had, there was, you know Cornelius, ah, Don Cornelius killed himself over the
Adam Curry:
Don Cornelius [low voice} Soul Train. Yeah? Ya think so? Well I got news for 'ya, but go ahead
John C. Dvorak:
Well, you can change the end of the story, I don't care. So "Chenk" has this new set with a bunch of people sitting around doing nothing. I don't really get what they're trying to do on this crazy.
Adam Curry:
They're production people. One guy is switching, one guy is editing
John C. Dvorak:
No, no, no, there's just a bunch of women looking at computer screens. They're not doing anything. One's playing Angry Birds.
Adam Curry:
Ohhh. Are they hot?
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, then they're doing it wrong.
John C. Dvorak:
So anyway, Chenk gets this black guy in here to tell us all about the history of Don Cornelius and he puts some assertions in here that are just like..you're kidding, right? You're gonna stay with this story?
Clip (Cenk Uygur):
Obviously, you know, a tragic story of his apparent suicide this morning. So, um, think about, might as well start off the month with Don Cornelius, who was the creator, executive producer and first host of Soul Train
Adam Curry:
Soul [low voice] Train
Clip (Cenk Uygur):
As everyone knows what Soul Train was
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it was a shitty show! Let me just say it right now, Soul Train sucked! OK? They had bad acts on it was no good. The dancing was fun to watch back in the seventies [70's]. It was cool. But, it sucked as a show.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, listen to his assertion about the danicing
Clip (Cenk Uygur):
After thirty five [35] years, it was the longest running first-run nationally syndicated program in television history.
Clip:
So first, that's interesting and second of all, what I didn't know was that he was the executive producer of it.
Clip (Cenk Uygur):
Yeah
Adam Curry:
Oh, ooohhh, what rock would you been under Chunk?
Clip:
the host. But it turns out he's the one that came up with the idea. He's the one who pushed it forward.
Clip (Cenk Uygur):
Interesting, so he's pitchin' it to several entities to try and get it going and basically watching folks dance on tv was something that was pretty revolutionary.
Adam Curry:
Absolutely. He's right about that.
John C. Dvorak:
What? Are, are you kidding me? Dick Clark had dancing on tv ten [10] years earlier and he had it on continually.
Dancing on tv was revolutionary? You kidding me?
Adam Curry:
I think what he mean to say was.. No it's not
Adam Curry:
What was revolu, the KIND of dancing was revolutionary. The KIND of dancing. We had some, I mean it was some crazy-ass dancing goin' on, on Soul Train.
But, you're right, what the guy said is completely ludicrous. OK, I agree. Now lets talk about this obvious hit job.
Jingle:
two shots to the head
Adam Curry:
As our poor..actually, I have this jingle
Jingle:
[sax] Another tale of the Hollywood whackers. [drum roll]
Adam Curry:
Ha haaaaa. So Don Cornelius. Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
That was a good one.
Adam Curry:
Donnnn Cornelius, in two thousand eight [2008], he was convicted for assaulting his wife and they threw the book at him really.
They put him on, you know, thirty six [36] months probation, he had to do all kinds of crazy stuff, because, you know, he tried to really hurt her.
Now, what was interesting, is this woman, and who runs Hollywood, John, who do we assert runs Hollywood?
John C. Dvorak:
The mob.
Adam Curry:
Which mob specifically?
John C. Dvorak:
The Russian mob
Adam Curry:
The Russian mob. Uh, her name is Viktoria Chapman. That's not her real last name, by the way. Viktoria with a K. She is an ex-Russian super model and it turns out that they finalized their divorce in two thousand nine [2009]. Here's Don Cornelius's quote: 'I'm seventy two [72] years old, I've significant health issues, I want to finalize this divorce before I die."
Adam Curry:
The divorced was indeed finalized later that year. And part of the settlement would give her about half a million dollars (500,000 USD) in life insurance should he die. However, stipulation, if he committed suicide within two years, then the policy would be void. Well, look at that now. The two years passes just a little bit and he suicides himself and she gets a big payout.
Adam Curry:
A russian supermodel. Helloooo, Hollywood!
Jingle:
Another tale of the Hollywood Whackers!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
Guy was whacked.
John C. Dvorak:
I like it.
Adam Curry:
He was whacked!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
He was whacked! It's what happens all the time... in Hollywood.
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, if you look her up and look at her images on Google, you get to see what happens when you have one too many facelifts.
Adam Curry:
Right. Well she probably needed to continue and called up her other Hollywood mobster friends. [In Russian voice] "I am needing more facelifts. You must kill him!"
Adam Curry:
Poor Don, but he was not a good guy. I mean, he was agressive towards women. That's not okay. No one brings that up, by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
Noooo.
John C. Dvorak:
It's like all these white guilt people.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Seriously, it's all these white guilt people going on and on about what a revolutionary character he was!
Adam Curry:
Can somebody just say revolution...
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, that show DID suck!
Adam Curry:
It sucked! Can someone just say that? Hey, Soul Train sucked! I did like the crazy dancing. That was kind of fun.
John C. Dvorak:
No, I agree they would stop [inaudible fluster] once or twice during the show they would form a line and then two or three of the super dancers would come out and do breakdancing, early breakdancing.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
Things you'd never see anywhere else.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
And that was the only thing good about the show. And Cornelius was kinda full of himself when he was the host.
Adam Curry:
Kinda? Kinda? [groans]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, well anyway.
Adam Curry:
And it was a syndicated show. I'll give him that.
Adam Curry:
You know, from a...
John C. Dvorak:
Early syndicated show. He made a lot of money.
Adam Curry:
From a Television...
John C. Dvorak:
He didn't die broke.
Adam Curry:
No, from a television executive producer standpoint, for him to keep that show on the air as long as he did. I think it went off, it actually did go off the air for a year or two. There was something that happened and it came back with a new host.
John C. Dvorak:
I remember that.
Adam Curry:
And it sucked even more.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Yeah and by then, of course, we already had Club MTV and all that other stuff and who cares. But you heard it here, first!
Adam Curry:
No one else on the mainstream media televisions will tell you that Soul Trail basically sucked.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs] They won't.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
This is true. The reporting is so... it's pandering.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Like people [who] listen to our show, we do not pander to bullcrap.
Adam Curry:
No. No, that would be a waste of sitting down every single day.
John C. Dvorak:
We don't have time for it.
Adam Curry:
I saw that radio guy, Pat, who runs like seven or eight stations in Texas.
Adam Curry:
He was at a party I was at the other day.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
And he said, "Oh my God, you guys are my favorite show." He said "I can't believe"... He said "I had no idea. The production values on your show, the fact you guys don't prep anything, but then don't step on each other, I don't know how you do it."
John C. Dvorak:
We don't prep, working together.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
We prep a lot.
Adam Curry:
But, yeah, well, that's what he meant. He meant "you don't do any pre-production or anything." Because he works with morning shows...
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah where they do a lot of pre-interviews and the kind of thing... in fact, I was the Generation X3 Show and I finally gotten it into everyone's head, "Do NOT talk!"
Adam Curry:
Yeah, shut UP!
John C. Dvorak:
Unless the cameras are running.
Adam Curry:
Shut up, yeah, exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
There's two things about it. One is your wasting content that is valuable that is worth money.
Adam Curry:
Yep.
John C. Dvorak:
And you'll never say it again. You'd never say this again. For people out there who don't understand how most of this works out in the real world, you go to these shows and they put you in a green room and...
John C. Dvorak:
sometimes, they bring in a producer and then they pre-interview you.
Adam Curry:
For the Jay Leno Show, you have to go three days early to Burbank! Unless you're like Hillary Clinton or, uh, Michelle Obama, that's a little different.
[Clears throat]
But, you actually have to go to Burbank days in advance to sit down with the Segment Producer and then they'll listen to you and say, "Oh yeah! that's good story. Yeah, a little about your cat. Yeah, bring that up." Or Jay will say "ehhh, tell me about, ehhh, your cat" and then you'll launch into the story.
Adam Curry:
I mean when you watch this on television, that's how it done. And it's insulting to intellectual human beings.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's phony.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And even with all the pre-production, he still can't interview them. It's weird.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] No, well he's just looking at his cat story. "Ehhh! Tell me about your cat story. Ehhh, you've got an interesting story about a cat, I hear! I hear!"
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
Isn't that exactly how it goes?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no, it's really bad.
Adam Curry:
Hey, when are The Oscars? Aren't The Oscar's coming up soon? Must be. We have them soon?
John C. Dvorak:
I think they're in March, aren't they?
Adam Curry:
Mmmm, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Let's find out, let's consult the book of knowledge.
Jingle:
Consult the book of knowledge!
Adam Curry:
So, of course, everyone heard about these two Gitmo Nation East citizens.
John C. Dvorak:
February 26th (2012-02-26)
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
Adam Curry:
Right. These two citizens who were ARRESTED over their tweets that they sent. And they were not allowed into the Port of Los "Angeleees" because they had tweeted some, some English slang.
Adam Curry:
And, ah, the slang was, ah
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. This is classic.
Adam Curry:
Well, but it was another, it was another promotion, John.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh! Well this one, OK, you caught me off guard here.
Adam Curry:
Yessirree Bob, it was another promotion. Umm, I'm just looking for everything, here we go. So it's Emily Bunting and Lee van Bryan. Were arrested because his tweet, he sent two tweets.
Adam Curry:
And one is the reason why they were caught. And the other one is the promotion. It's a why-because type thing.
So he said, "we're going to destroy America". Which is a very British euphemism for, you know,
John C. Dvorak:
For party!
Adam Curry:
Party, yeah, we're going to get drunk, and it's gonna-- good time. Right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. We're gonna destroy the place.
Adam Curry:
Second tweet. "We're totally in LA. Piss people off."
Adam Curry:
"We're gonna piss people off on Hollywood Boulevard and dig up Marilyn Monroe." Hello?
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Promotion for My Week With Marilyn.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, a little belated. But it's a good promotion for that. Is she nominated for anything? Is that movie nominated--
Adam Curry:
Of course.
John C. Dvorak:
No no, the actress is nominated for best actress
Adam Curry:
Oh, that movie is definitely nominated. It's the best movie. And then the--
John C. Dvorak:
You saw it?
Adam Curry:
Yes, I did.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh.
Adam Curry:
You know, Miss Micky--
John C. Dvorak:
Did you go see Hugo 3D?
Adam Curry:
Nope, still haven't seen that. Miss Micky is, of course, a SAG member,
Adam Curry:
so she gets all the Harvey Weinstein Company and everything, they send the DVDs for free. It's really funny. And it actually says, after you have viewed this viewing copy only, you must cut it up with scissors.
[Laughs]
Yeah, like we're gonna do that.
John C. Dvorak:
Like anyone's gonna do it.
Adam Curry:
Idiots. But on the, um, and I have a copy of, it's in the shownotes on three seven niner dot nashownotes dot com (http://379.nashownotes.com)
John C. Dvorak:
Do not watch Hugo 3D off a DVD.
Adam Curry:
No, no, I would never do that. We're waiting for a, ah, you know, it's--
SFX:
Sound of door opening and closing.
Adam Curry:
Hello. Hello darling.
Micky Hoogendijk:
Hi.
Adam Curry:
This one.
Thank you love.
What? What?
John C. Dvorak:
While you're talking about the SAGs by the way, I do have, there was a callout for our show on the SAGs.
Adam Curry:
Oh, no kidding.
John C. Dvorak:
Play it.
Adam Curry:
Are you leaving, Micky?
Micky Hoogendijk:
No.
Adam Curry:
No. OK.
Micky Hoogendijk:
I'm not.
Adam Curry:
Alright. Love you.
Micky Hoogendijk:
I'm seeing Molly.
Adam Curry:
Oh! She's gonna go see Molly. I think she heard the threesome joke. [Laughs]
Clip:
[Blaring]
[Music]
[Female voice] Tina Fey, John Trasinsky, and Meryl Streep with a special In The Morning Tribute.
Clip:
[Music]
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
I didn't. I watched the show! I didn't catch that.
John C. Dvorak:
Meryl Streep with a-- here's what's weird about it. It was Meryl Streep with a special in the morning tribute. There was never any such tribute!
Adam Curry:
Let's listen to that again.
John C. Dvorak:
They just threw it in!
Clip:
[Blaring]
[Music]
[Female voice] Tina Fey, John Trasinsky, and Meryl Streep with a special In The Morning tribute. [Music]
Adam Curry:
Oh my goodness! A special in the morning tribute!
John C. Dvorak:
I think a writer slipped it onto the prompter. One of our insiders.
Adam Curry:
What is that, a special in the morning tribute? What is "In The Morning"?
John C. Dvorak:
There wasn't anything. It just, they just threw it out there. In the morning!
Adam Curry:
You're kidding me. That's amazing. And I watched the show, I didn't catch it.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, you weren't watching close enough.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, that's cool.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm catching boogers so I mean, come on.
Adam Curry:
And by the way, ahh, for that, my friend, I will give you a,
Jingle:
Clip of the day.
John C. Dvorak:
For the booger clip or this one?
Adam Curry:
No this one is better.
So I'm looking at the official document. The withdrawal of application for admission, ah, to the United States, for this guy.
Adam Curry:
This, Lee van Bryan.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's in the shownotes. And it says, "during secondary examination..." which of course, you know, this is where it happens, right.
This tells you that it's a promotion, but it's funny here. And they're sending another message to us.
"Mr. Bryan was placed under oath, and his sworn statement was taken by CBP Officer, Mayman."
Adam Curry:
"Mr. Bryan confirmed that he had posted on his tweeter account..." [Laughs] "...that he was coming to the United States to dig up the grave of Marilyn Monroe."
But it actually says "tweeter" in the document. It doesn't say "twitter," it says "tweeter."
John C. Dvorak:
Wow.
Adam Curry:
And so that's the reason--
John C. Dvorak:
That must be code. I'm beginning to think that when people use that inappropriately, it's code for something.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's probably code, to tell us
John C. Dvorak:
It's a wink-wink-nudge-nudge.
Adam Curry:
Towards us. It's like, hey, just so you know.
Adam Curry:
Just so you know. Hey, Adam and John. Here's stuff you can use. Yeah, it is a wink-wink-nudge-nudge.
I can't find the Rick Perry "on the tweeters" anymore. Did I lose that?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Rick Perry on the tweeters. Yeah, no, you probably, well I still have it. I think.
Adam Curry:
I had it somewhere.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, that was your clip. It wasn't my clip.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but I haven't used that in a long time, and. Because it got old.
John C. Dvorak:
Well when you have a problem like that I have a new thing. Play permaclip one (1).
Adam Curry:
[Chuckles] Permaclip ... one (1). Alright.
SFX:
[Permaclip One (1)]
Screaming man. Rattle of chains.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
SFX:
[Exasperated grunt]
Adam Curry:
Alright, good. Thank you. Very good.
I don't know what happened to that one.
John C. Dvorak:
Mh.
Adam Curry:
Oh well. It happens.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey by the way, here's something that showed up. Um. We're gonna run through all my clips alre-- one after another. But here, play clip "Secret Service and Romney" and then realise that what we're talk-- we've actually made a mistake. We make mistakes on this show, but we made a big one here.
Clip:
[Female voice] And other caucus states. [Noise] CBS News confirms that Mitt Romney will have Secret Service protection by Thursday.
John C. Dvorak:
I was under the impression that he already had it, and we were under the impression that Ron Paul had it, but apparently not.
Adam Curry:
No, Ron Paul's the guy that actually needs it.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's what I think.
Adam Curry:
Yah. Hmm. That's interesting. We know that Valerie Jarrett has it, the true President of the United States.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, why would she have it when Romney doesn't? But why does she need it at all? Yeah, I know. Maybe that's what the dream was about. Too close to the truth.
Adam Curry:
I got a, let me see if I can find this, I got a note from one of our, another one of our, I get so many insiders. And you know they send this to me because I've got encrypted email and all that.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. I don't have encrypted email. Send it to him. [Laughing]
Adam Curry:
So we know that Hillary Clinton
Adam Curry:
has a, Lucifer, I'm going to have to change the name now. Lucifer has a, does not get along well with the Secret Service at all. In fact, we've discussed on this show previously, she can never be President because then the Secret Service will blow the lid on her, and talk about--
John C. Dvorak:
Well, blow the lid off whatever it is they have the lid to blow. But she was notorious-- during the Clinton administration, I have some friends in Washington that told me that, they of course were claiming of course that Clinton wasn't going to get reelected
John C. Dvorak:
because of her, and she apparently treats the Secret Service like scum.
Adam Curry:
So I got a note from one of our military personnel. Who listened to the show. He says, "one of my shooting buddies was on White House detail with the Secret Service and had to get four stitches in his head when Hillary threw a highball glass at him after he refused her order to fix her a drink. And he said, 'Look, I'm a Secret Service agent ma'am, I'm not your bartender'."
Adam Curry:
agent mam, I'm not your bartender. and you know what to code word is that all the secret service guy use err in errr DC and also when she flys into Afghanistan, they'll all have a code word right,
John C. Dvorak:
yeah they all do.
Adam Curry:
What's Obama's codeword? Do we know his code name?
John C. Dvorak:
I think we had it on the show once, I don't know what it is anymore.
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second, lets just find out.
John C. Dvorak:
yeah that would be in the book of knowledge.
Adam Curry:
"Obama's Secret Service Codename" Lets see if the book of knowledge can help us out here. errm "Renegade."
Adam Curry:
Ummmm, Renegade. Pfft.
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Renegade.
John C. Dvorak:
Really?
Adam Curry:
Renegade. Really. Ah, do you know what Lucifer's codename is?
John C. Dvorak:
Well I'm looking.
Adam Curry:
No, this what, this is not going to be on the Book of Knowledge. This is what the guys, ah, well it will be on the Book of Knowledge once this show gets Fanscribed. It'll be indexed.
John C. Dvorak:
Well here, wait, let me tell you what it says in the National, ah, the NNDB, for her.
John C. Dvorak:
So we, then you can give me the real one or the new one or whatever they're using. Cause I'm sure it changes anyway.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Umm, where are you? Hillary Clinton is-- Bill Clinton was "Eagle".
Adam Curry:
Bahahaha. Spread Eagle!
John C. Dvorak:
Eagle. Chelsea Clinton was "Energy".
Adam Curry:
Pfft.
John C. Dvorak:
So she must have been a little go getter.
Adam Curry:
Hee hee!
John C. Dvorak:
And Hillary Clinton was "Evergreen".
Adam Curry:
Well the guys in Afghanistan, where this comes from of course, call her "Broomstick".
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs] Broomstick.
Adam Curry:
I love that one, 'cause it has so many multiple meanings.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah
Adam Curry:
Broomstick is on her way in. Warning, warning. 30 seconds til Broomstick arrives.
John C. Dvorak:
Check, check, on Broomstick arriving.
Adam Curry:
So here's the clip on Broomstick leaving, that I promised you on Sunday's show.
Clip (Speaker 1):
[Female speaker] on, um, what could we do to persuade you to run for Vice President?
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
[Screeching laugh]
Adam Curry:
[Screeching laugh]
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
Oh my goodness.
Adam Curry:
[Imitating] Oh my goodness!
Adam Curry:
Oh my goodness, I'm soo flattered, let me get my broomstick.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
"Um, first of all, it's one of the most extraordinary wonderful experiences being able to work with all of you, which I am always telling people everywhere, ah how privileged I am. Um, I think um, I have made it clear that I will stay on until the president nominates someone and that transition can occur.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
But I think after twenty (20) years, and it will be twenty (20) years, of being on the highwire of American politics and all of the challenges that come with that, it would be a, probably a good idea, to just find out how tired I am.
[Audience laughter]
Everyone always says that when they leave these jobs.
[Audience laughter]
and I think that from my perspective, I will, you know, just work as hard as I can until the last minute I have the honour of being Secretary,
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
and certainly do everything no matter what I do, which I have no idea what it will be, to support all of you.
And, I am happy to work with Vice President Biden, who does an excellent job and who is a huge advocate and supporter for this depart and for USAID.
Ah so, it's a little odd for department to be totally out of an election season, ahh since as Secretary of State, I can not participate, you know I didn't watch any of those debates.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
[Audience laughter]
Adam Curry:
Yuk Yuk Yuk Yuk.
John C. Dvorak:
Bull crap.
Adam Curry:
Well, there you go. She's a self-professed tired bitch. There you go. That's, uh
John C. Dvorak:
So, ah, let's go over some of these codenames. This is kind of funny.
Adam Curry:
I knew you'd like it, yes.
John C. Dvorak:
And by the way, they do change. Some people have one, two. Like George H. W. Bush was first "Sheepskin," then "Snowstorm," then "Timber Wolf."
Adam Curry:
Hm.
John C. Dvorak:
Barbara Bush was "Snowbank" then "Tranquility".
Jingle:
Lone wolf/Howling wolf.
Adam Curry:
Timb-- What was Barbara Bush's name?
John C. Dvorak:
She, it was originally Snowbank, then it was Tranquility.
Adam Curry:
Oh. Snowbank.
John C. Dvorak:
Jimmy Carter was "Dasher," then "Deacon," and then "Lock Master."
Adam Curry:
Apparently, when Obama visited Gitmo Nation East, they called him, the officials there had codenamed him "Smart Alec." That's just from the Book of Knowledge, so I don't know if that's true.
John C. Dvorak:
Well that's, it's not listed here. Here he's listed as "Renegade," as you said. And Michelle Obama is "Renaissance."
Adam Curry:
Oh I'm looking at the same document now, okay.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, then Malia Obama is "Radiance," Sasha is "Rosebud."
Adam Curry:
Pfft!
John C. Dvorak:
Sarah Palin is "Denali."
ac: "Denali?" That's interesting.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, "Denali," and Todd is "Driller."
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
Really?
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughter] What is "Denali?"
Adam Curry:
J.F.K. was "Lancer." mm
Cindy McCain, "Parssol."
John C. Dvorak:
You know, my favorite thing is you got the Reagan one. Reagan was always, apparently uh, "Rawhide," but Michael Reagan, the uh, talk show host is "Riddler."
Adam Curry:
Uh
John C. Dvorak:
Which is - Nancy Reagan, "Rainbow."
Adam Curry:
Oh, Dick Cheney, codename "Back seat."
Ooh! As in, "back seat driver."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, probably.
Adam Curry:
That's kind of good.
These are good. I like these.
John C. Dvorak:
And this is what I don't get, Frank Sinatra apparently has some codename.
Adam Curry:
Napoleon.
John C. Dvorak:
Napoleon!
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Hey man, we need some cool code names.
John C. Dvorak:
Well-
Adam Curry:
I mean, "Crackpot" and "Buzzkill," that's a little like public knowledge. Now we need some, like secret code.
Adam Curry:
So anyway uh, "Broomstick" is hanging out, and who was visiting Washington, but our very own favourite, tie-eating shill from Georgia, Mikhiel Saakashvili.
Now, we from reading the National Defence Authorization Act, all nine-hundred and eight [908] pages of it, what are we doing?
Lucifer was there just uh, um couple of ooh weeks, or months ago. Times flies.
Adam Curry:
And what did we approve in the National Defence Authorization Act, do you recall John?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, the main thing that everyone's upset about is now Habeas Corpus is out the window, the US Military can police the streets of the American cities, and arrest the public at large.
And then, turn them in for unknown periods of times in a detainment um, facility, including Gitmo.
Adam Curry:
Right, but there was also a provision in there for weapons sales to Georgia. Remember that?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, actually I don't remember it, but it sounds right.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and Hillary's uh, her job is to complete the sale. She does one of her clippity-clop meetings. There's a little bit of clippity clop in the clip.
A clippity clop clip. And uh, just listen to what she says about how awesome our relationship is with Georgia.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
[clippity clop] Well, it's a pleasure to welcome the President here to The State Department
Adam Curry:
Clippity clop! Clippity clop!
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
There is a number of excellent meetings, and consultations here in Washington.
Adam Curry:
Oh yes.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
Starting uh, with the very comprehensive meeting he had with
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
President Obama in the oval office.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Uh huh.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
Georgia is a valued partner...
Adam Curry:
To KILL people with.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
They are actively participating in Afghanistan
Adam Curry:
To KILL people.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
Georgian soldiers are showing great courage
SFX:
Slide whistle
Adam Curry:
Killing people
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
and professionalism. We are pursuing a system of consultations-
Adam Curry:
Consultations, John! Consultations about killing people!
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
-to determine our way forward on further trade, and investment.
Adam Curry:
[flustered] Invading Iran?
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
There's a lot of work doing on in our bilateral uh, consultations-
Adam Curry:
To kill people!
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
-on education, on health, on good governance, on rule of law-
Adam Curry:
on killing people,
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
the defence and security co-operation, so-
Adam Curry:
There it is. Defence and security co-operation. That's it. Killing people.
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
uh, the President has a very busy week here, and uh, more people for him to see. Uh, there's a great deal of interest in Georgia-
Adam Curry:
to kill people. So then, he visit with, who you heard her to refer it, with President Obama, who makes just about the biggest flub in international foreign politics I've ever heard.
John C. Dvorak:
Who visits with him?
Adam Curry:
Saakashvili.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, okay.
Adam Curry:
So now let's recall, when was Saakashvili, uh when was Georgia in the news?
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know. It was a couple years ago.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and what happened?
Adam Curry:
What happened is, all of a sudden, fighting broke out between the Russians and Georgia. The mainstream media played it off like "Oh, poor little Georgia was attacked" when there is undeniable PROOF that Georgia attacked the Russian troops. You recall us discussing all this, right?
John C. Dvorak:
And we had a lot of evidence to that effect and we also found the phony websites and who owned them and all the rest of it.
Adam Curry:
Now listen to our president, The Leader of the Free World, speaking to The Arch Enemy of the Russians!
Clip (Barack Obama):
The eighth anniversary of the Rose Revolution. I think Georgia should be extraordinarily proud of the progress that is made in building a sovereign and democratic country. And one of the first things I did was express my appreciation for the institution building that's been taking place in Russia. Uh, uh, in Georgia.
Adam Curry:
Oh, God! [Laughs] What an IDIOT!
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
He actually said Russia and "uh, uh"
John C. Dvorak:
[Coughs]
Adam Curry:
Uh, uh wait a minute, guy who hates Thai, oh yeah Georgia. I'm sorry, wrong douchebag.
John C. Dvorak:
Well there goes his statue.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] There goes the Obama airport sign.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah you know Obama is angling to take George Bush's place.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, of course.
John C. Dvorak:
You know, as a guy who's streets named after him.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's George Bush Airport. It's George Bush Airport, yeah.
Adam Curry:
But to say that and you see Saakashvili literally go like, "eh?"
[laughs]
Di- did I just really hear him say that he was so proud of Russia?
[Laughs]
Uhhhhh. That to me, those kinds of things back in the seventies (1970s), John, we would call that an International Incident.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Totally.
Well, nobody played it up at all.
Adam Curry:
Came across a funny clip.
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Remember we played Obama backwards, and "Yes we can" and if you played that backwards, it was like, like "I love Satan" or something?
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughs] right! Do we still have that clip?
Adam Curry:
I should take a look, let me see. [Typing] Yes we can backwards, yeah I think we have it somewhere. Because someone else did some backward masking on his-
uh, oh "thank you, Satan," that's what it was. Uh, see if I can find this - no it's not, I don't the actual clip, I've got some YouTube thing, which will probably not be what we want, but - might be worth it.
Uh, let's see.
Clip (Barack Obama):
[edited together] Yes, we can. Yes, we can. Yes, we can. Yes, we can.
Audience: Yes, we can!
Clip (Barack Obama):
Yes, we can!
Audience: [cheers]
Yes, we can.
Clip (Barack Obama):
Yes, we can.
Audience: Yes, we can.
Adam Curry:
Now, let's-
Clip (Barack Obama):
Thank you, Satan.
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
Clip (Barack Obama):
Thank you, Satan.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip:
[audience cheers]
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip (Barack Obama):
Thank you, Satan.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip (Barack Obama):
Thank you, Satan.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
"Thank you, Satan."
Adam Curry:
"Thank you, Satan." Pretty clear, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it says, "Thank you, Satan."
Adam Curry:
Yes. [laughter]
"Thank you, Satan."
So this is a clip from uh, I-
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
There's more [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
That's a classic! We need to keep that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I, I really should.
Adam Curry:
Um, this is him saying, 'alien saucers are coming,' and it's from- [chuckle] It's from his inauguration speak.
Clip (Barack Obama):
[distorted] With greater co-operation and understanding between nations. We'll begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forage a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan.
Clip (Barack Obama):
[played backwards]
Adam Curry:
"The power of alien saucers"
John C. Dvorak:
Keep that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. I, I really should.
Adam Curry:
"The power of alien saucers"
John C. Dvorak:
I'm not really getting that one.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it's kind of hard to hear through Skype.
John C. Dvorak:
No, I'm not getting it and I hear it fine though Skype.
Adam Curry:
Really?
Well, listen again.
Clip (Barack Obama):
[played backwards]
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
I think that's pretty clear.
John C. Dvorak:
Pfft! On Neptune! That's not clear!
Jingle:
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Yeah, imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
jingle:
Yeah, on No Agenda
Adam Curry:
Back to one show!
jingle:
[With Adam Curry singing along] In the morning!
John C. Dvorak:
Here we go, Aaron Heath in Saint Agnes, South Australia, hundred and twenty six dollars (126 USD).
"Don't mention my name" Julie in Eaton, Colorado, hundred and eleven dollars and eleven cents (111.11 USD) "Hi guys, I am a sysadmin and asked for vacation karma. It worked!"
Adam Curry:
Oh! Good!
John C. Dvorak:
"No one even noticed I was gone!"
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] That's, uh
John C. Dvorak:
Sysadmin
Adam Curry:
I don't know if that's good, but I'm glad it worked out for you.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, "I'm trying to get my luck and go on vacation again. Can I have some more vacation karma to ward off any disasters while I'm gone? Love you guys, Julie"
Jingle:
you've got karma
Adam Curry:
Sure. Julie. We're happy, happy that worked out for you. Thank you so much.
SFX:
kiss
John C. Dvorak:
Michael Stadjduhar, in somewhere, I think it's Arab Emirates, maybe
Adam Curry:
It looks like he's in the military.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, one hundred and one dollars and one [101.01] cents. "Thanks for the greatest show in the universe," greatest podcast in the universe, "you missed my donation on January first."
John C. Dvorak:
Well-
Adam Curry:
That's weird
John C. Dvorak:
I think so, "but my goal is to complete a twelve [12] twelve [12] twelve [12] knighthood in December, which will leave me a few weeks to enjoy being a knight before the end of the world"
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
You got to make sure you get in on that. There's no time like the present.
Adam Curry:
And by the way, why don't you give all your money to the show, because you're going to die anyway.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's the end of the world. And what was the date?
Adam Curry:
Twenty first [21st], the twenty first [21st] of December
John C. Dvorak:
Twenty first [21st]. Okay.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, we should at least have some fun.
John C. Dvorak:
Oracle Broadcasting, Round Rock, Texas, that's in your neck of the woods. A hundred [100] dollars. Ken Burchill, or Burchull
Adam Curry:
Burchill
John C. Dvorak:
Probably Burchill, in Ottowa, Ontario. Eighty-eight dollars and zero [88.00] cents. "Hi John and Adam, I'm an avid cyclist and I heard Austin is very bicycle-friendly.
Adam, are you Bi-cycle-curious?" Get it?
Adam Curry:
Wah wah. Well, Lance Armstrong not only lives here, but he for the Tour de France, in Austin,
Adam Curry:
because the hills are uh, the inclines and etc. are very similar. There's a lot of guys cycling. 'Cause we have really big shoulders on our roads here.
John C. Dvorak:
Aw, that's nice, you need that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, you can ride, like three [3] guys side-by-side and not bother anybody. It's good.
John C. Dvorak:
And can you add him to the birthday call out list? Ken Burchill?
Adam Curry:
Yes, of course. I'd be happy to.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't think he got listed.
Adam Curry:
No, he didn't. Good call. Ken Burchill
John C. Dvorak:
Johan Badenhorst, in London, seventy [70] seven [7] dollars. "Hey citizens, just a small donation so I can finally get de-douched."
SFX:
two tweets on slide whistle
Jingle:
you've been de-douched [interrupted]
John C. Dvorak:
Actually, wait, oh oh oh
ac: What'd I do wrong?
John C. Dvorak:
I was going to ask for a combo. But the karma is for his wife, Twawnette
Jingle:
Hey, citizen! [child]
Jingle:
you've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
And he says "Hail the foot, Johan Badenhorst."
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
jd Hail the foot, Johan Badenhorst!
Adam Curry:
Hail the foot, Johan!
John C. Dvorak:
There, you can use that for your phone. Patrick Vaughn in Traverse City, Michigan again. Double nickles on the dime [$55.10]. "Hit me with a Hey Citizen/Karma."
Adam Curry:
Oh, ooh, ooh, ohh. Hey Citizen/Karma. Ok, let's go.
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
Jingle:
You've got karma!
SFX:
bell ding
John C. Dvorak:
"Locked down a new job. Could use the luck. Thanks for making the best podcast in the universe."
Alan Bean, in Oakland, fifty [50] dollars. "Back donating after two months off donating to the show, so I could donate to Dr. Paul's run at the representative nomination
Adam Curry:
Hmmm
John C. Dvorak:
Hence all our donations
Adam Curry:
That's where all the money's going. Okay, now I get it. That's where all the money's going.
John C. Dvorak:
Andrew Haverson, Gravenhurst, Ontario. Fifty [50] dollars.
Christopher Lawton, Dartmouth, Massachusnuts [Massachusetts, Fifty [50] dollars. Greg Bruncil, in Kenosha, Wisconsin, fifty [50] dollars. And Scott Malcothian, in Tokyo, fifty [50] dollars.
John C. Dvorak:
Mark Boykers, Borkers, Buekers
Adam Curry:
Bowkers, Bu-
John C. Dvorak:
Could be Bueckers. It could be Burkers. Chain Valley Bay, New South Wales fifty [50] dollars. And that's all we got!
Adam Curry:
Yeahhhh!
John C. Dvorak:
That's our short, and, you know, oh well
Adam Curry:
I'm making a-
SFX:
slide whistle down
Adam Curry:
This is already a short month. I'm making a call right now, if a the, if the
SFX:
slide whistle steps down
John C. Dvorak:
Well, it surprised me that we had like a really lousy Sunday and we usually, it usually gets made up for.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but here's the fact of the blather, is that we're working very hard, doing this all, literally, all the time.
I mean, I'm always on my phone if I'm mobile. I'm always collecting stories. We run a huge infrastructure for collecting stories. We have the No Agenda News Network, we got the show notes, we're watching C-SPAN.
For Christ's sakes! Excuse me, didn't mean to take the Lord's name in vain. But, we're watching Rachel Maddow.
John C. Dvorak:
Ohhh!
Adam Curry:
This is like, so you don't have to, by the way. I think we're bringing you unique entertainment. And it just seems that a lot of people are just saying, "aw, we're, whatever, times are tough. Screw them. Screw them. Hey, enjoy the entertainment. No, the value for value model was built upon the idea that would could bring you-
John C. Dvorak:
Support
Adam Curry:
Yeah, we could bring you a show
John C. Dvorak:
Support
Adam Curry:
Yeah, well support. What did I say?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's what I am saying, support. We need support.
Adam Curry:
We need support. But, like real support. Not last year's support.
Adam Curry:
Seriously, I'm very happy I live in Austin, because my rent is lower. Everything is lower. Except for, uhhh, what do you call that stuff? The gas.
John C. Dvorak:
Gasoline?
Adam Curry:
No. The liquid
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, natural gas?
Adam Curry:
No, yeah, the gas
John C. Dvorak:
Your gas and electric bill
Adam Curry:
Na, no, what do you call the gas, they call it, uhh
John C. Dvorak:
They call it gas.
Adam Curry:
No, no, no, no. It's the...
John C. Dvorak:
Pacific Gas and Electric. We pay for gas
Adam Curry:
No, they call it
John C. Dvorak:
Methane.
Adam Curry:
No, something with a 'p'
John C. Dvorak:
Propane!
Adam Curry:
Propane. Thank you.
John C. Dvorak:
You have propane there?
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
Does that heat the house or what?
Adam Curry:
Yes, yes. Because we don't-
John C. Dvorak:
So this is like The King Of The Hill with the guy that-
Adam Curry:
We're out in the sticks, man. We have a septic tank, we barely have water.
John C. Dvorak:
You have a septic tank and propane? You're that far out in the middle of nowhere?
Adam Curry:
I can't afford to live in the city.
John C. Dvorak:
Huh.
Adam Curry:
South Congress, I can't afford that.
John C. Dvorak:
[southern accent] Well I didn't know you were like that, boy.
Adam Curry:
I'm tellin' ya. Why do you think I have guns in the house. We're out here, man. They could kill us and no one would know about it until the next show.
John C. Dvorak:
And then, maybe not even then.
Adam Curry:
heh heh yeah. No, but it's disappointing to me.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, okay. Well, it's disappointing me to an extreme.
Adam Curry:
It doesn't matter, but I will say:
If by the end of this month it hasn't picked up I want to go back to one show a week.
Because, I have to do something else. That's not a threat. It's a promise. I just gotta, I just gotta do something else. Done. How about you?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, if you're starving to death, yeah.
Adam Curry:
You've got two kids in school!
John C. Dvorak:
I got one that's gonna go to college, I'm gonna really be up against it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. And we got a tax deal coming up.
John C. Dvorak:
Have you looked at these prices at college? It's a scam!
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Yeah, it is a scam. Anyway.
John C. Dvorak:
We're being scammed left and right.
Adam Curry:
Again, you're spending money on entertainment. You're spending money on news and information. Please consider spending it on us.
Why? Because we need the donations.
Why? Because we need the value for value.
Why? Because we said so.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] That didn't work.
[chuckles] One too far. One too far.
John C. Dvorak:
I feel like writing a check.
Adam Curry:
One too far. Exactly. And here's how you do it
Jingle:
Dvorak dot org slash n a
John C. Dvorak:
At least until they shut us down, based on your dream.
Adam Curry:
Let me see what the chat room says about this. Let's see.
[nasal voice] "Show needs more original content."
John C. Dvorak:
It's ALL original content!
Adam Curry:
Thank you whammo, why don't you go pound yourself?
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckles]
What do 'ya mean? I'm talkin' now. Is this some kind of copy of myself?
Adam Curry:
Apparently. No, these are people who sit at home in their underwear. I'm in my underwear, too, when I do the show.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, it's the chat room. The chat room is, you know, is what it is? There's always somebody like that in the chat room. "Needs more original content." What does that mean? It's ALL we have is original content.
Is this something you hear on MSNBC or is this something you hear on CNN? No, I don't think so.
Adam Curry:
Uh, no. This is funny, now. This is good. Ok. "The show needs more alien talk." There ya go.
Adam Curry:
Needs more-
John C. Dvorak:
Well, there might be some truth to that.
Some of the crackpot stuff seems to be very appealing to a large group of the audience.
Adam Curry:
"Needs more cowbell."
"Boo hoo, I can't pay my mortgage."
No, if you can't pay your mortgage then don't donate. A dollar. A dollar!
John C. Dvorak:
Needs more car..you know we did the cowbell once.
Adam Curry:
Well, ok we'll try that, hold on
John C. Dvorak:
Naw, I got a cowbell, too, I'm not gonna use it. I think it's annoying
Adam Curry:
What?
John C. Dvorak:
Cow bell. I think what's really missing is this:
SFX:
Adam's cow bell
SFX:
John's duck call
SFX:
bell ding
Jingle:
squirrel
SFX:
two hits cow bell
Adam Curry:
There 'ya go. I'm done. Done ranting
John C. Dvorak:
That's a terrible cow bell you have
Adam Curry:
Uh, please consider donating for February the fourteenth [14th]. Why? Because nothing says I Love You More than donating to No Agenda. And supporting the program.
John C. Dvorak:
How about donating on the tenth [10th]? We missed that palindrome, two [2] ten [10] twelve [12] is a fantastic five [5] number palindrome.
Adam Curry:
Is it possible the show has just run its course?
John C. Dvorak:
No, I think a lot of it has to do..I think we've lost a lot of uh, well that's, yeah that IS a possibility.
I think about that once in a while. But, I'm not gonna..but that takes a longer run of no donations than couple weeks or even a month
Adam Curry:
That's what I'm saying, end of February. That's when I'm pegging it. It's possible its run its course.
Maybe it's just done, I don't know.
John C. Dvorak:
People have heard, they've finally got the message. They can't get anyone else to listen, and we have a lot of people that say, "aw they won't even listen to the show."
They'd rather just be in the daze of, you know, whatever the mainstream media, Wolf Blitzer tells them and advertising. A lot of people would prefer...you know, Leo, by the way, and he makes it very public. Leo is now at a run rate, Leo is now doing nine million [$9,000,000] dollars
Adam Curry:
You're kidding me. Nine million [9,000,000] dollars?
John C. Dvorak:
Yes.
Adam Curry:
Wow. Good on him.
jc:
Well, you have to say. He took an approach that was commercial, it wasn't, and he doesn't overdo the commercials, but he does have these long commercials and it's to sell you stuff and uh, it's a different approach than we have which is just a donation model.
And, you know, a lot of people, I guess, they'd rather...typically when you watch tv or listen to the radio you're getting two [2] minutes of content and one [1] minute of commercials.
So you're just listening, most of your time is being wasted, it's a waste of people's time, the way I see it.
Adam Curry:
Well, it's not just that, it's like
John C. Dvorak:
I think it's a huge part of it
Adam Curry:
It is a part of it, but I respect Leo for what he's done. I think that, I didn't know about the nine million [9,000,000]. I think that's outstanding and I congratulate him. But, of course, you know, he can't
John C. Dvorak:
It's a lot more relaxed
Adam Curry:
Yeah, really, he's more relaxed than we are. But he can't really talk about everything 'cause you can't, you know, when you have some sponsors.
Of course, he talks more about gadgets and shiny things and you know
John C. Dvorak:
He likes to go into politics once in a while, but he knows he can't go too far because he'll get some sponsor-'
Adam Curry:
Sponsor will pull out, exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, exactly.
Adam Curry:
Or, or, or you get some group of people who say "screw you, we're gonna tell your sponsors not to be on your show!" and we wouldn't last a second with sponsors on this show. Not a second
John C. Dvorak:
No, we could do it, but the show would be
Adam Curry:
Would suck! [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
Would be like any other morning show or a zoo, or-
Adam Curry:
We'd be the Soul Train of podcasts, baby
John C. Dvorak:
It would still be the greatest podcast in the universe, with no content.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Hello everybody! It's the Soul Train of podcasts here!
[laughter]
SFX:
slide whistle
Adam Curry:
Oh well. But, I am serious. I got a kid coming out here, I gotta pay for her. [sighs]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. We'll see what happens over the next month. But don't forget, uh, uhh
ad:
You mean, "remember"
John C. Dvorak:
The tenth [10th] of February is a great, great palindrome.
Adam Curry:
"Remember." Not "don't forget." You always do that. What have we learned? What have we learned? We've learned-
John C. Dvorak:
Actually I think I, yeah, well, we've learned nothing.
Adam Curry:
[laughing]
Jingle:
Hey citizen
Adam Curry:
[coughing] Correct!
Jingle:
It's your birthday, birthday! on No Agenda!
Adam Curry:
Well, apparently, people still like to pay money to have their name mentioned on the greatest and best podcast in the universe. And we do that usually in the form of birthdays. So let's do that. Ken Berlickman, uh, he celebrates his birthday on Saturday.
Adam Curry:
And of course, Alexis Richardson, she celebrates uhh, actually she congratulates herself as she had her birthday yesterday.
So, happy birthday on behalf of everybody here that we're supporting, barely just getting by on the No Agenda podcast show.
Jingle:
[stinger] It's your birthday, yeah!
Adam Curry:
And then Christopher Lawton, who came in with uh, his final fifty [50] dollars for today. We cah knight him. So uh
John C. Dvorak:
Hold on. Let me get my thing
SFX:
unsheathed sword
Adam Curry:
I'm glad we paid for the rings in advance
Jingle:
[knighting music]
Adam Curry:
So come on over, Christopher. We're very, very happy that people like you support the program and understand our value for value model and because of your support up to one thousand dollars (1000 USD), you not only receive that glistening knight ring to go hit people in the mouth with, but we also bestow upon you the title of
SFX:
x; sword clank
Adam Curry:
Sir Christopher Lawton. Knight of the No Agenda Round Table. My friend, as an extra bonus right over here at the Round Table, hookers and blow, Wren Boys and Chardonnay, if that's your preference. And certainly, hot pants and booze!
Adam Curry:
Come on in!
Alright, enough bitching.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, to change the topic. Now, we're not going to change the topic too much, but uh, you know the uh,
[clears throat]
The Mormons?
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
You've heard of them?
Adam Curry:
Yes. We have several- we have a lot who listen to the show, actually.
John C. Dvorak:
[clears throat]
Yeah, I'm sure we do.
Adam Curry:
Don't piss them off.
John C. Dvorak:
Because they correct us every so often.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, well one of the- the Mormons who are the ones behind all the genealogy sites, and the popularity of genealogy, and all the rest of it.
Because, the Mormons believe - and a Mormons can correct me on this but, they generally believe that uh, you can find one of your old relatives who's dead, who's been dead and you can re-baptise them.
Adam Curry:
Mhm.
John C. Dvorak:
In uh, the grave, and then they can become saved, or, you know, they can sort of post facto, uh-
Adam Curry:
You know, you are really doing a horrible job at explaining. I don't really don't understand.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, whatever the case is, the Mormons like to- are the-
Let's just put this way, they're behind all the genealogy databases, if you go to for example
Adam Curry:
Don't they have the biggest database in the world, of everybody?
John C. Dvorak:
Yea, if you want to find out about your relatives, the Mormons are one of the better places. Ancestry.com is the one that is one of the leading-
Adam Curry:
is that a Mormon outfit?
John C. Dvorak:
Yes, it's headquartered in Provo, Utah
Adam Curry:
Really? really.. I didn't know that
John C. Dvorak:
it's in Provo, I mean, I don't see where it says anywhere Mormon
Adam Curry:
Oh, interesting.
John C. Dvorak:
They run Genealogy.com, myfamily.com, rootsweb.com, footnote.com, they own the place
Adam Curry:
That's a very successful company, by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
So, I saw this commercial, done my them.
Adam Curry:
Mhm.
John C. Dvorak:
Which has white people, and black people finding out who they're related to. And all the black people seem to be related to the same person-
Adam Curry:
Obama.
John C. Dvorak:
Heh, no. No. This is why- this is what- this is why- this is the clip that says, "Weirdest Commercial Messaging Ever."
I'm not quite sure what they're trying to tell us, but I found the whole thing to be slightly disturbing.
Clip (Speaker 1):
What can I say about Ancestry.com? My adventure began when I received a leaf pointing me in the direction of my great-grandfather. Who was a pilot with the Flying Aces in World War I.
Clip (Speaker 2):
On my mother's side, I found an aunt who traced her lineage all the way back to Thomas Jefferson.
Adam Curry:
Pfft.
Clip (Speaker 3):
I was able to trace my bloodline back to Nobles, and even a king.
Clip (Speaker 4):
I discovered I'm a direct-decent of Eric, The Red!
Clip (Speaker 5):
After only a couple of hours on Ancestry.com, I was able to trace my family line all the way back to none other than our third President.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Thomas Jefferson.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Marie Antoinette.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Thomas Jefferson.
Clip (Speaker 6):
Aristotle.
Clip (Speaker 2):
Thomas Jefferson.
Clip (Speaker 7):
Alexander, The Great.
c8:
Thomas mother f-[bleep] Jefferson!
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip:
Join Ancestry.com and begin a one-of-a-kind journey into your unique past, because you never know where your story begins.
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute.
Clip:
[in unison] Thomas Jefferson.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
I'm expecting someone to go, "Wheezy!" Really?
John C. Dvorak:
Did you find that a little peculiar?
Adam Curry:
What's up with the Thomas motha effin' Jefferson bit?
John C. Dvorak:
Every person who said "Thomas Jefferson" was black.
Adam Curry:
Of course, of course.
John C. Dvorak:
Every white person was related to somebody else, but apparently every black man in the world is related to Thomas Jefferson.
This guy was, I guess, screwing everybody!
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
"Hey, slave! Come over here! Let me show you something! I'm Thomas Jefferson!"
Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I find- I find this one insulting, on the one hand.
And uh, bogus,
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Yeah, somewhat.
John C. Dvorak:
And also its messaging. What is the message are they tr- because we're looking at, you know, obviously the Ancestry.com folks are big supporters of Romney, let me guess.
I could be wrong.
Adam Curry:
Mm.
John C. Dvorak:
And uh, what is the point of this messaging? I've thought about it. I thought it was kind of racist, and insulting, because there's all this anti-Jefferson stuff going on.
Because this is actually just anti-Jefferson, or white man is a hypocrite, or I don't know-
Adam Curry:
Now wait a minute.
We have, we have the-
John C. Dvorak:
There's messages in here, and I just can't figure them out.
Adam Curry:
Well, help me out here. Um, often in politics you hear people talk about the Hamiltonians, and the Jeffersonians, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
So, what's the difference between the Hamiltonians and the Jeffersonians?
John C. Dvorak:
Well off hand, I'm not sure.
Adam Curry:
Oh.
John C. Dvorak:
But it had to do with monetary policy, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong.
Adam Curry:
Okay uh,
jd: Well, whatever the case is, is this poss- and I don't think this has anything to do with that.
Adam Curry:
Mm.
John C. Dvorak:
Is this possibly trying to say to black people that they're really, kind of part of the same family-
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
And they have better lineage? That they have better lineage than the white people who are, you know, they were rememory? Marie Antoinette, she's like a creep who had her head cut off because she said, "Let them eat cake."
So- so- so- so, all you black people should get on board here with Romney, because you really all related to Thomas Jefferson? Is that what it is?
Adam Curry:
I don't know, it- I agree that it is very disturbing.
the way the uh, the guy went, "Motha effin Jefferson!"
And that was like, "wow!"
John C. Dvorak:
It was a woman
Adam Curry:
Uh, really?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, some-
Adam Curry:
And it kind of- somehow it felt racist. The whole thing.
John C. Dvorak:
No, I felt- when I first saw it, I thought it was racist.
And then, I start start thinking about the Mormon connection.
Adam Curry:
Mm.
John C. Dvorak:
Then I thought there is some sort of secret message going on here. To kind of, you know, there's a belief that the Mormons hate blacks.
And uh, or- they, you know, I guess some years back, they didn't let them in the church. They do now.
And uh, I don't know. I just find that the- that I found the whole thing to be slightly disturbing, at the same time I realize it's trying to do- accomplish something, but I'm not sure what.
Adam Curry:
Trying to find out- consulting the Book of Knowledge here. "Thomas Jefferson sex with slaves."
Let's see if that results in anything.
Mm. No. Interesting.
I dunno. I dunno what that means.
John C. Dvorak:
One of the mysteries we bring up here on our lack of original content show.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] The lack- well, the whole thing is "You played a clip, that's not original content." See, we're media-
John C. Dvorak:
We can't criticize this, how are we going to criticize this ad if we don't play the clip?
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
How do we understand anything if we don't play the clip unless we want people left in the dark, tell them to go watch something that was on 3 days ago.
Adam Curry:
Hey, hey, hey-
John C. Dvorak:
What kind of thinking is this?
Adam Curry:
It's just someone in the chatroom John, take it easy.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah.
Adam Curry:
So CBS, is CBS still owned by Viacom, or did Sumner-Redstone sell that part?
John C. Dvorak:
As far as I know they still are. Lets take a look in the book knowledge. It's book of knowledge day, ladies and gentlemen
Adam Curry:
So CBS is, uh, now we know that ABC is completely compromised, we have Stephanolpoulos in there, we have the President's, one of his senior advisors, is ABC news' President's sister, Valerie Jarrett, the whole thing is compromised
Adam Curry:
CBS is always kind of interesting to me
John C. Dvorak:
yeah now they're owned by a media conglomerate, but I think Redstone's still involved.
Adam Curry:
So CBS is really going hard at the Obama administration
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah Redstone is still the executive chairman, so they just basically just scammed some money from someone
Adam Curry:
Well someone's paying them to do this. So first CBS has this report which was exclusive,
according to Charlie Rose, and when did Charlie Rose become a CBS shill? I mean, I didn't know this.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, he took over. Their morning show was one of the worst things ever. And it was just losing audience, so they fired everyone except Erica Hill and put in Charlie Rose and this black woman who I've seen on other shows who's very vibrant, but she's not that entertaining.
Adam Curry:
Isn't that Gail?
John C. Dvorak:
Rose is the main guy, he's like the Brian Gumbel of the morning set there
and he's so depressing, I don't know what they were thinking
Adam Curry:
"Tell me about your sexuality and your DNA". So by the way, he did the segment with Molly Wood this morning and I could swear he was looking at her boobs
John C. Dvorak:
Sure he was. You can ask her later. She'll never get on again so never mind.
Adam Curry:
It's all over now. "Hey, Adam and John, thanks for ruining my career". Join the club. Alright so there's two reports. The first one is quite astounding to me
Adam Curry:
You thought Solyndra was the only company that-
John C. Dvorak:
I never though that, they've got a bunch of companies they've been scamming money to.
Adam Curry:
How much money do you think in total, they've put into these alternative energy companies from the American Re-investment Act?
John C. Dvorak:
I would guess about five billion (5000000000 USD).
Adam Curry:
6 point, I think, 2 billion dollars (6200000000 USD), and most of them are going bankrupt! Listen to the report.
Clip:
"It's been four months since the FBI raided bankrupt Solyndra. It received a half billion tax dollars
and became a political lightning rod. Republicans claiming it was a politically motivated investment."
Clip (Speaker 1):
We counted twelve clean energy companies that are having trouble after collectively being approved for more than 6.5 Billion dollars (6500000000 USD) in federal assistance. Five have filed for bankruptcy. The junk bond rated Beacon, Evergreen Solar, Spectrawatt, AES's subsidiary Eastern Energy and Solyndra.
Clip:
Others are also struggling with potential problems. Nevada Geothermal, a homestate project personally endorsed by Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid, warns of multiple potential defaults in new SEC filings reviewed by CBS News. It was already having trouble paying the bills when it received 98.5 Million dollars (98500000 USD) in energy department loan guarantees. Sun Power landed a 1.2 Billion dollar (1200000000 USD) loan guarantee last fall, after a French oil company took it over. On it's last financial statement, Sun Power owed more than it was worth. First Solar was the biggest S&P 500 loser in 2011 and it's
CEO was cut loose, even as taxpayers were forced to back a whopping 3 Billion dollars (3000000000 USD) in company loans. Nobody from the energy department would agree to an interview. Last November, the hearing on Solyndra, Energy Secretary Steven Chu strongly defended the government's attempts to bolster America's clean energy prospects.
Clip (Steven Chu):
In the coming decades, the clean energy sector is expected to grow by hundreds of billions of dollars (USD).
We're in a fierce global race to capture this market.
Clip:
Economist Morici says even somebody as smart as Secretary Chu, an award-winning scientist, shouldn't be playing venture capitalist with tax dollars.
Clip (Peter Morici:
Tasking a Nobel Prize Mathematician to make investments to the U.S. government is like asking the Manager of the New York Yankees to be the General in charge of America's troops in Afghanistan. It's that absurd.
Adam Curry:
So, watching this report, and it was much longer than this,
this was edited down for your protection and convenience. This coincides with, exactly, what the Ulsterman White House Insider was saying. Is that the real scandal of the Obama administration, the real scandal, is all this money they gave to their cronies with the stimulus. And that that is what the people in power, the people with all the money, are really trying to bring to the forefront,
is that the Obama administration, which I think is just a small club of people connected to Chicago, took our money and gave it to, like, Harry Reid's buddy there in Nevada. And that this scandal is supposed to be bigger than Fast and Furious. And now I'm seeing CBS doing this report? I think that's significant and we'll see if more comes out, if more jump on board. But, in the big-money game, John,
I'm thinking that this really is a push to discredit the Obama administration.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it could be and it could also be the tip of the iceberg.
Adam Curry:
Well that I think for sure. I'm not quite sure where to look. You know I love doing this stuff. Although I will say that one company got three billion dollars (3,000,000,000 USD). That's so much bigger than Solyndra and no one's talking about it.
John C. Dvorak:
That was First Solar
Adam Curry:
Did we ever talk about First Solar?
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
Three billion dollars (3,000,000,000 USD)?
John C. Dvorak:
In guaranteed loans.
Adam Curry:
Now another CBS program, 60 [sixty] Minutes, lays into - you were talking about it earlier - the National Defense Authorization Act, Section ten [10] twenty [20] one [1]. Please do not look for Section ten [10] thirty [30] one [1] as the mainstream media is trying to distract you and trying to steer you away from where the real language is. So, we have the guy interviewing Panetta, Leon Panetta, the current Defense Secretary, who used to be CIA. A little swip-swap there.
Adam Curry:
And he, and he specifically says, 'hey wait a minute, you can now go and drone American citizens.' Now, this answer from Panetta is so meme-driven, every meme we've ever talked about on this show, is in his answers.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
Well, you know, without getting into the specifics of the operation, uh, if, if someone is a citizen
Adam Curry:
Heh, there's the first one
Jingle:
hey citizen
Clip (Leon Panetta):
of the United States, and is a terrorist, who wants to attack our people and kill Americans, in my book that person is a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
Now, did you hear what he just said? If your a terrorist, then in my book your a terrorist.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, he said if you're a terrorist, you're a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, its not like the definition of a terrorist, he just says, if you're a terrorist and you want to kill American people, not you're killing, no if you WANT to kill American people, then in my book you're a terrorist.
So, 'In my book you're a terrorist.'
Clip (Leon Panetta):
And, the reality is
Adam Curry:
And by the way, has he published his book? What book it that? This guy is very dangerous
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] "In my book"
Clip (Leon Panetta):
that under our laws, that person is a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
So, "under our laws, that person's a terrorist," if they're a terrorist. It makes no sense.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
And, we're required under process of law
Adam Curry:
Okay, I got to stop again.
What is process of law, John? What the hell is that? What is the 'process of law?'
jd Well, it implies due process, but he never says that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
And there is no due process if you're going to define some, some average person as a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
Because in his book, you're a terrorist.
John C. Dvorak:
You're a terrorist if you're a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
In my book.
John C. Dvorak:
In my book.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
And uh,
Adam Curry:
Now out in hard cover.
[laughter]
So, it- the process.
John C. Dvorak:
So anyone can be a terrorist, essentially. I mean, for pretty much complaining, complaining to the government about the food stamp program.
Adam Curry:
Or whatever.
John C. Dvorak:
fishing too much, sending too many letters, you can be defined as a terrorist.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
person's a terrorist. And we're required under process of law to be able to justify that uh, despite the fact that this person may be a citizen, he is first and foremost a terrorist who-
Adam Curry:
My gawd!
John C. Dvorak:
No, you're first and foremost a citizen!
Adam Curry:
Citizen! Thank you!
John C. Dvorak:
You're not "first, and foremost a terrorist!"
Adam Curry:
That is- this is so outrageous! You're "first and foremost a terrorist." No! You're always a citizen first! Before anything else!
This guy in an a-hole!
Clip (Leon Panetta):
be able to justify that uh, despite the fact that this person may be a citizen, he is first, and foremost a terrorist who threatens our people. And for that reason, we can establish a legal basis on which uh, we ought to go after that individual, just as we go after Bin laden.
Clip:
Just as we go after
Adam Curry:
[scoff]
Clip (Leon Panetta):
other terrorists
John C. Dvorak:
They kill him.
Adam Curry:
What?
John C. Dvorak:
What he just said was that 'we can go kill him.'
Adam Curry:
Yes! That's exactly what he's saying.
John C. Dvorak:
Because he said 'just the same way we do with Bin Laden.'
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
We can do the same with thing with uh, someone we, WE define as a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
Mhm.
jd' For whatever reason, because there's no real, you know, what does it-
Adam Curry:
It's in his book.
John C. Dvorak:
It's not actually as though he's actually done anything.
Adam Curry:
No, it's in his book. He looks it up and goes, "Hey, Dvorak!"
John C. Dvorak:
He's a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
Let me see.
John C. Dvorak:
I think that he's a terrorist.
Adam Curry:
I looked at the book.
John C. Dvorak:
This is pretty good.
Adam Curry:
I looked at the book, and I-
John C. Dvorak:
I mean, we should probably stop doing the show.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip (Leon Panetta):
just as we go after Bin Laden. Just as we go after other terrorists, why? Because-
Adam Curry:
OOH!
John C. Dvorak:
"Why? Because!"
Adam Curry:
Isn't that beautiful?! Isn't it beautiful what he's doing there? "Why? Because"
Why? Because. "Hey! shut up!" in my book.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
Go after Bin Laden. Just as we go after other terrorists, why? Because their goal is to kill our people.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
And for that reason we have to defend ourselves.
Adam Curry:
Uh! This is so, so, so, just mind-boggling. And it's on CBS.
Clip:
They're not entitled to due process of law under the Constitution of the United States? The lose their citizenship
Adam Curry:
Now, listen to him. This is about is about the um, Expatriation Act that they're trying to push through. The will lose- now, here's- you're going to find out how you lose your citizenship, but he LIES his way, all the way through this.
Clip:
[if] this administration decides they're a terrorist?
Clip (Leon Panetta):
You know, it, it- people it, it, this person wanted to uh,
John C. Dvorak:
[Mockingly] Uh, uh, uh, uhuh
Adam Curry:
Uh uh uh uh, why? Because uh uh uh uh
Clip (Leon Panetta):
suddenly raised questions about uh,
Adam Curry:
What was the says, "this person." I didn't quite understand that.
John C. Dvorak:
Back it up.
Adam Curry:
Yeah he says "this person," but there's no reference - I'm going to back to the question - there is no reference to anybody.
John C. Dvorak:
He, you know, he's just referring, I thing to a citizen-terrorist in general.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, the citizen-terrorist.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
You know it
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip (Leon Panetta):
the people
Adam Curry:
[laughter] The citizen-terrorist! There you go! "I'm a citizen-terrorist." Wee!
Clip (Leon Panetta):
It, it, this person wanted to uh, suddenly raise questions about uh, whether or not they are a terrorist, and they were to return to The United States of-
Adam Curry:
I would like to raise a question. Point of order. Am I a terrorist? I'd like to know, am I a terrorist?
Clip (Leon Panetta):
Of course, they would be entitled to due process.
Adam Curry:
"Due process." But 'due process' in a military court. He evades the truth.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
Uh, that uh, that's something we provide
Adam Curry:
[clap clap]
Clip (Leon Panetta):
every US citizen. Uh, and for that matter, frankly, any terrorist who is arrested, we provide due process to that individual as well.
Adam Curry:
Co- What?!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
That's a blatant lie! We don't provide any due process! Yeah, you provide military process. It's like, here's how the process goes: 'Let me look at my book. You're a terrorist! Off you go to Gitmo, boy!"
Clip (Leon Panetta):
But if a terrorist is out there on the battle field,
Adam Curry:
Oh!
Clip (Leon Panetta):
the terrorist is threatening this country,
Adam Curry:
Here it comes!
Clip (Leon Panetta):
That person
John C. Dvorak:
Wait, wait, wait, wait! Did he say, on the battle field- did he use an 'and' or an 'or' when he's- go back, I want to hear that again.
Adam Curry:
"On THE battlefield," I think.
John C. Dvorak:
Because I'm thinking, you know, they're trying to define the USA as a battle field.
Adam Curry:
Well, of course it is. It's already been defined
John C. Dvorak:
It's their goal.
Adam Curry:
That's already been the goal. He says, "THE battlefield"
Clip (Leon Panetta):
is uh, threatening this country. That person is an enemy combatant.
Adam Curry:
Oh, hold on. Let me just back it up. I didn't go back far enough.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
Of course, they would be entitled to due process. Uh, that uh, that's something we provide every US citizen.
Adam Curry:
Heh.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
And for that matter, frankly, an terrorist who's arrested we provide due process to that individual, as well.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
But if a terrorist is out there on the battlefield
Adam Curry:
The battlefield.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
The terrorist is uh, threatening this country
Adam Curry:
So, first you got to be a terrorist, threatening this country. Then! you get named.
clp That person is an enemy combatant.
Adam Curry:
Ba-da bing! That's the language. An "enemy combatant." And this is,
John C. Dvorak:
So, so the people in the Occupy movement,
Adam Curry:
Are enemy combatants.
John C. Dvorak:
I think so.
Adam Curry:
They're on the battlefield. Yeah! They're on the battlefield. Drone targets!
Clip (Leon Panetta):
And when an enemy combatant holds a gun at your head, you fire back.
Adam Curry:
This is what I find to be outrageous. So, it's one thing if a enemy is holding a gun to your head! It's another thing if a guy is out in the desert somewhere going like, "I hate America!"
[laughter]
I think there is a big difference between those two. Don't you think so?
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, yeah.
Clip:
Who makes that decision?
Adam Curry:
Who makes that decision, John? Who makes the decision to fire back, i.e. make a drone strike.
who is the sole individual who can make that decision?
John C. Dvorak:
Probably the President can, because he's already done it.
Adam Curry:
Yes! It is thee President, and no one else.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
decision at to whether, or not uh, to ultimately to do that. President of the United States, obviously, reviews these cases, and reviews the legal justification. And in the end says, "Go," or "no go."
Clip:
So it's uh, the requirement of the administration, under the current legal understanding is that the President has to make that, that declaration?
Clip (Leon Panetta):
That's correct.
Clip:
Not you?
Clip (Speaker 1):
your understanding is that the President has to make that declaration.
Clip (Leon Panetta):
That's correct.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Not you
Clip (Leon Panetta):
That's correct.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Only the President can decide
Clip (Leon Panetta):
Well, it's a recommendation we make. It's a recommendation the CIA director [laugh] makes, in my prior role. But, in the end, when it comes to
Adam Curry:
Why does he laugh about that? Why does he laugh?
'You know, 'in my ha ha ha in my prior role ha ha ha'
John C. Dvorak:
Cause he's in the same job. He hasn't changed jobs
Adam Curry:
No, he's laughing cause he's
John C. Dvorak:
That's why he's laughing. He's laughing 'in my prior role [laughs]yeah like I'm still not workin' there
Adam Curry:
No, I think he's laughing because he like [laughs]'I sent so many people on the list to drone 'em
'ha ha ha. I can't even keep track any more'
John C. Dvorak:
Well, that's a possibility
Adam Curry:
uh ha ha ha, it's so, ha ha ha just kill people uh ha ha ha
Clip (Leon Panetta):
recommendation we make. It's a recommendation the CIA director [laugh] makes
Adam Curry:
uh ha ha ha
Clip (Leon Panetta):
but in the end when it comes to, you know, going after someone like that, the President Of The United States has to sign off. And he should
Adam Curry:
And he should! Ladies and gentlemen, first of all,
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
this gentleman is a maniac.
Is an insane-
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] These guys are all maniacs
Adam Curry:
Insane maniac
John C. Dvorak:
Run by maniacs and the idiot public keeps voting them back in!
Adam Curry:
And do you want Mitt Romney to decide whether you get killed? Is that not..this, this
John C. Dvorak:
Romney was already confronted, on one of the debates, with what he though of the NDAA and that particular provision. He said it was fine!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, he can't wait to get his finger on the button. They got a whole joystick there, you know, they got videos on the drones, there's shooting
It's like they're playing X-Box, these people. 'uh huh huh huh, yeah uh huh huh huh, out at the CIA, we had this cool X-Box game, uh huh ha ha, it's called drone your ass' [cough]
It's insane. Absolutely insane. And quite disturbing.
John C. Dvorak:
Very. Very disturbing
Adam Curry:
Thank you CBS, though. I mean, I don't know, I don't think
John C. Dvorak:
Somethings up. Somebody got irked. It must have been Redstone or someb, something happened. We miss it, whatever it was, I'm sure, if we dig a little bit, it could be the hearings on, CBS is very involved in the hearings from the FAA on uh, censorship
Adam Curry:
um huh
John C. Dvorak:
And there's some back story to this, because they essentially CBS turned on the administration
Adam Curry:
Oh, yes.
John C. Dvorak:
with this particular piece.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
This is a hit piece designed to expose the administration for a number of things,
Adam Curry:
Of course.
John C. Dvorak:
and this part here has just got to frighten the public.
Adam Curry:
It's frightening me. And when you see the video.
John C. Dvorak:
'well, you know, his propane tank must have exploded'
Adam Curry:
[pffftt]
John C. Dvorak:
'He's talked about it in the past.'
Adam Curry:
I keep telling Micky, I am not flying anymore in my life. I'm just not going to fly anymore. 'Cause that is how they will do it. 'Ohh yes, unfortunate accident.' It always happens two [2] miles from the airport. 'He was on the right approach and then he just disappeared from the radar. Don't know what happened. Don't know..it's crazy how that happens.'
Adam Curry:
No way man, I'm packin' heat!
John C. Dvorak:
haha pack-
Adam Curry:
I'm driving around with a Judge, and you try and come up to me, if you look hot and you're blonde, I'm puttin' a cap in your ass. 'Cause you're probably CIA to kill me.
John C. Dvorak:
Ok. So, uh, well in lighter news
Adam Curry:
[laughs] No wonder people don't want to donate to the show. 'Enough already! Get away from me!'
John C. Dvorak:
So we need more lighter news. Play the soccer riot story. Let's get some news out there.
Adam Curry:
[sighs] My goodness. Okay!
Clip (Shepard Smith):
Jonathan Hunt, live tonight at the United Nations. John thanks.
SFX:
swoosh
Clip (Shepard Smith):
Some Americans, I should say, a soccer riot in Egypt today killed at least seventy three [73] people. It hurt a thousand [1000] more. That's according to local officials. At a soccer match. Fans stormed the field just seconds after the home team expectantly beat the league's best club. Witnesses say the fans hurled rocks and bottles at one another. Egyptian officials say most of the victims died from concussions,
Clip (Shepard Smith):
deep cuts to the head, and suffocation during the stampede.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay.
Adam Curry:
There's was more soccer news. Or do you have to comment on this?
John C. Dvorak:
No, I'm game! I think we should talk about soccer more!
Adam Curry:
Ok, well it's a part of, uh
Jingle:
The Euro
Adam Curry:
Yeah, things are great over there in Euroland. Things are really looking up and we've got Haiku Herman on the way. And, of course, our buddy
Adam Curry:
Nigel Farage, who got into a little tiff there in the European parliament, there at Starfleet Command. But first, this very sad news about Greece, and soccer:
Clip:
Empty seats and a tattered flag in an Athens soccer stadium. A grim metaphor for the crisis hitting Greece's cash-strapped soccer leagues. The fate of the country's second- and third tier teams now hangs in the balance after players went on strike over unpaid wages and lack of health insurance.
Clip:
Football league Vice President, Stelios Sfakianakis says the league has been hit badly by the current economic crisis. He says this has been the worst crisis to the Greek soccer, since the professional game was created.
Adam Curry:
So, they can't even pay their health insurance.
John C. Dvorak:
How many times, yeah, play that again and lets count the number of times she uses the exact same word, crisis.
Clip:
Empty seats and a tattered flag in an Athens soccer stadium. A grim metaphor for the crisis
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Clip:
hitting Greece's cash-strapped soccer leagues. The fate of the country's second- and third tier teams now hangs in the balance after players went on strike over unpaid wages and lack of health insurance.
Football league Vice President, Stelios Sfakianakis says the league has been hit badly by the current economic crisis.
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Clip:
He says this has been the worst crisis
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Clip:
to the Greek soccer, since the professional game was created.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Clip:
[Stelios Sfakianakis speaking Greek]
Adam Curry:
There's more to this. Listen to whole report. See if "crisis" comes back. I have three [3] so far. Three [3] or four [4]? Was it [4]?
John C. Dvorak:
I have three [3].
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
Clip:
[Stelios Sfakianakis's translation] Things have gotten worse. We have not received any-
Adam Curry:
I love this guy. He sounds like a computer voice. "Things have gotten worse as we have not gotten any money from television broadcast contracts."
Clip:
[Stelios Sfakianakis's translation] Funding or income since last May. We don't have the television contracts that we had with a national broadcaster. Nor, have we reached an agreement with O-PAP.
Clip:
[Stelios Sfakianakis's translation] The Greek organization of football prognostics, despite it being practically February.
Clip:
Despite the suspension of games, some teams like Ethnic Cosisteras, was still training in Athens. It's coach says the problem of uninsured players must be tackled.
John C. Dvorak:
Must!
Clip:
[coach translation] This year, the second and the third national teams have been left as the mercy of God. The athletes can't play uninsured. The league is a tough one. We have many injuries every Sunday.
Clip:
[coach translation] And they've given insurance only during some games.
Adam Curry:
I don't think that, that's it.
Clip:
That's the worse thing. I would wish the games never start, if the players don't insurance.
Clip:
[mid-fielder translation] This mid-fielder says he hasn't been paid for last seven [7] months.
Adam Curry:
Hogh!
Clip:
And is now forced to been forced to borrow money from friends and family.
Adam Curry:
I don'y think she says it any more.
John C. Dvorak:
Mm. So, this is- this made out to be an insurance crisis.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
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Adam Curry:
Yes. [laughter] Crisis.
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John C. Dvorak:
Sorry.
Adam Curry:
That's right, whenever we say "crisis,"
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we have to
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ring the bell. So uh, there is a crisis, but when
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you hear seven [7] months! This really ruins it, because I was really waiting for the World Cup Soccer. And, of course, I was going to call Greece! It was so obvious they were going to win! But ow, these guys aren't even going to be on the field, because if the get hurt, then, you know, then they can't- they have no insurance!
John C. Dvorak:
How do you get hurt in soccer?
Adam Curry:
Oh, you can get, you can get messed up in soccer.
anyway-nigel-farage:
this in an interesting uh, clip, because the translators take over.
And uh, so you can't hear the original audio. And apparently, Nigel Farage, um quoted a British publication - this in not in the clip, but it comes back - talking about how many of the Germans, in the European Parliament are Nazis.
[laughter]
Uh, something to which uh, both Heir Schultz, who, of course is now the big Bwana there in The Starfleet Command, and some of his uh, cohorts from Germany take rather large exception to.
And uh, Nigel just keeps on screaming. They turn his mic off. They tell him to "shut up, slave." It's an interesting exchange.
Clip:
About a Gaultier. As a German, I very much object to democratic Germany being put on same footing as the Nazi Germany. And so, I would like an apology from this gentleman. Nobody in Berlin i- i- is sending Gaultier anywhere in here.
Clip:
That i- is a speech full of hatred. This is incitement of hatred between European people. So, he should withdraw his words, or you should ensure that this sort of thing does not, does not occur.
[applause]
Clip (Nigel Farage):
[off-mic: (best guess)] Thank you. I stop you to work now, [mic opens:] some might say, and indeed they biggest selling Sunday newspaper in Britain, used that word. And if you want to talk about hatred, just look at what this European project is doing! We have German newspapers, slagging off the Italians for being cowards, slagging off the Greeks for being lazy, and useless.
Clip (Nigel Farage):
And we have Italian- and Greek newspapers depicting leading figures in Germany wearing Nazi Uniforms. Surely the whole point is, that this project that was designed to bring us all together in peace and harmony, is actually ripping us apart, and bringing back nationalisms.
And, if there was one country I really go at in my speech, it was actually the [shouting in the background] United Kingdom, because I admitted the way we behave towards Greece wasn't acceptable in the Nineteenth [19th] Century.
[applause]
Adam Curry:
So, now they turn his mic off, a translator comes in:
Clip:
[German]
Clip (Translator):
Nationalism is propagated in this house by those uh, who wear flags upon their desks. Uh, and their nationalism upon their sleeve, I believe you're one of them. The next speaker is Mr. Brok. [End of translation]
[shouting in various language]
Adam Curry:
Now, they're yelling.
[laughter]
Clip:
[foreign language]
Clip (Translator):
Mr. Brok has the floor. [Foreign language]
Adam Curry:
[laughter] FRALALA! [calm voice:] Mr. Brok has the floor. [shouting:] BLAHlalalala! [calm voice:] Mr. Brok can talk now.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Clip (Translator):
Please sir, please take your seat, Mr. Brok has the floor. [foreign language] I must-
Adam Curry:
He's ruffie-ing him! "I'm going to ruffie you," did you hear that? That's what he said. "I'm going to ruffie you! Ruffie you!"
Clip (Translator):
I'm calling you to order. I'm asking you to take your seat.
Clip (Translator):
Mr. Farage, I'm calling you to order. Please take your seat, otherwise you'll have to leave the chamber. Mr. Brok has the floor.
Adam Curry:
[laughter] "I'm going to ruiffie you!" I heard it. 'I'm going to ruffie him'
So, it's a mess there, and of course Nigel is right! I mean, it is- I speak to Dutch people all the time, and it's really quite frightening how they speak about the Italians and the Greek. They do the same thing. 'Lazy-ass Greece pe- Greeks, you know 'stupid Italians.' It is ripping Europe apart!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's because these people- these countries are not designed to be hooked up like this.
Adam Curry:
Ahuh. No. So-
John C. Dvorak:
It's bull crap! I mean, this- the Europe is the way it is because of uh, a long history. And this is a very- and it's cultural! It's deeply engrained cultural, and it's language-based too. People think a certain way largely because language influences the way you structure your thinking. Because you can not, you know, there are certain things you can, and cannot think about if it doesn't even exist in the language.
And, unless you have a single language in the whole of Europe, you're not going to have a Eur- an EU that works! This whole thing is a disaster!
Adam Curry:
So um, on the thirtieth [30th], just a couple days ago, they rammed through a new treaty. Just amazing how this has happened. Now, we have the Lisbon Treaty, which we had uh, referenda, we had all kinds of voting on this, you know ION said, 'no, uh oh pfft, stupid Irish! Do-over!'
Oh! There it is. ION says yes.
And, because they have to fire up the ESM more than a year-and-a-half early, which you heard on this show first! The European Stability Mechanism, which is already been voted on by the finance ministers in July of 2011.
which-uh-forces-every-single-member-of-the-euro-zone-to-pony-up-any-money-that-is-requested-from-brussels-cash-call:
you've got to pay. No way out if it.
There's plenty of information about this in the show notes, even a great uh, YouTube video uh, in German with English subtitles. It explains exactly how it works. And so, what do they do? The create a new treaty! A brand-new one all-of-a-sudden overnight, at an informal meeting that everyone has to sign off on, and must be entered into, every singe national constitution. Haiku Herman takes the floor in uh, Starfleet Command and uh, explains, 'well we're sorry, but we got to screw ya.'
Clip (Haiku Herman):
This treaty must be seen as just one element of the economic reforms to governance that-
Adam Curry:
"Economic governance," ladies and gentlemen. Not "financial" , "Economic governance," send your money to Brussels.
Clip (Haiku Herman):
we have achieved over the last two [2] years. Reforms which you all evolve both responsibility, and solidarity. And which include, the Six Pack, with remains the backbone of our new governance architecture. This treaty is about more responsibility, and better surveyance.
Adam Curry:
Surveillance!
Clip (Haiku Herman):
Every country that signs it, commits to bringing in a dead break to it's legislature.
Adam Curry:
Did you hear that? A debt.break! He said "dead," but I think he meant, "debt break," into its own legislation.
Clip (Haiku Herman):
Preferably, at constitutional level.
Adam Curry:
BOO! And by the way, the document in the show notes, you'll find the treaty January 27th; three percent [3%]. If you don't- if you can't keep your debt under three percent [3%],
the fine is oh point two percent [0.2%) of GDP for the first fine. That's a lot of money!
Clip (Haiku Herman):
An automatic correction mechanism will reinforce compliance.
Adam Curry:
[German accent] Reinforce compliance automatically!
Clip (Haiku Herman):
And shining the debt break will enhance it's credibility. This is important as a confidence-building measure. It represent[s] a major step forward towards closer, and irrevocable fiscal, and economic integration.
Adam Curry:
Ugh.
Clip (Haiku Herman):
And stronger governance in Euro area.
Adam Curry:
"Irrevocable."
Clip (Haiku Herman):
It will significantly bolster the outlook for fiscal sustainability, and Euro-area sovereign debt. And therefore, enhance economic growth. Placing this commitment to self-control in the treaty shows our long-term, and irreversible commitment to avoiding excessive deficits and debts.
Adam Curry:
So this is basically all language meant hedge funds and bankers. Saying, "you can trust us!"
"Really! You got them all! They're signing off on thing. We got the thumbs screws on, and they have to pay! They have to pay at constitutional level. It will be absolutely engrained, emdded in law! Don't worry! Send us your money! No problem!" And then he continues:
Clip (Haiku Herman):
Like most members of the European Council, and like European Parliament that I would have preferred these issues to be addressed to changing the existing treaties, rather to have through a separate treaty.
Adam Curry:
But! It was so much more fun to draft up something that no one got to vote on,
just how we got here in the first place.
Clip (Haiku Herman):
As you know, they necessary unanimity for this was not forthcoming. There was no choice-
Adam Curry:
So, 'not everyone wanted to be on-board, but we forced them.' That's what that means.
Clip (Haiku Herman):
but to go down this route. But in doing so, I was personally determined to keep the new provisions as close as possible to the EU Treaties.
Adam Curry:
[scoff] Except for that money thing!
Clip (Haiku Herman):
Not setting up a separate organization, but the means of reinforcing our union.
Clip (Haiku Herman):
And, had, had the effort in the same way when something of the Euro Plus Pact. I hope that our successors will succeed in integrating this treaty into the EU Treaties.
Adam Curry:
Whoa! Screwed!
John C. Dvorak:
Hmm.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
That's interesting. That's a good one.
Adam Curry:
John's like, "Hmm, let me think, that's not so good that's going on over there. Hmm."
John C. Dvorak:
No, this is,
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
This is headed to a disaster. This guys are just out of control.
Adam Curry:
Well. You though we had some kind of patent on idiots running the show?
John C. Dvorak:
No. They're worst than we are.
Jingle:
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Adam Curry:
That concludes our European segment, ladies and gentlemen.
That is what i call depressing.
John C. Dvorak:
Hmm.
Adam Curry:
Meanwhile, while President Obama has his finger on the button to drone you whenever he feels like (cause he's the man), Michelle Obama spent fifty thousand dollars (50000 USD) at Agent Provocateur in New York while she was there.
John C. Dvorak:
On what?
Adam Curry:
Shopping.
John C. Dvorak:
For what?
Adam Curry:
Clothes.
John C. Dvorak:
Fifty thousand dollars? Was she buying couture?
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Hmmm...
Adam Curry:
Agent Provocateur. You've certainly heard of it.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh. "Agent Provo-Cou-Ture"...
Adam Curry:
Yes. "Agent Provo-Cou-Ture". Exactly!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, fifty thousand dollars (50000 USD). She did so well because, of course, when the first lady buys a certain brand everybody else is like "Ah... Everybody's gonna buy that now". So first of all, they closed of the whole shop on Madison Avenue.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh Yeah! Everyone's really happy about the way they're travel around and shut down the cities.
Adam Curry:
The stock price actually spiked.
John C. Dvorak:
Of what? What company?
Adam Curry:
Agent Provocateur.
John C. Dvorak:
That's the name of the company?
Adam Curry:
Yes. You never seen this fashion, Agent Provocateur?
John C. Dvorak:
No, let me look.
Adam Curry:
Or Agent Provocuture, as we might say. Yeah, they spiked on the UK exchange. I don't know if they listed in the US.
John C. Dvorak:
"Sexy. Luxurious. Lingerie."
Adam Curry:
Uh-huh. Oh yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
She bought fifty thousand dollars (50000 USD) worth of lingerie. I though she bought couture dresses.
Adam Curry:
Well, it's couture lingerie. She bought more. She bought...
John C. Dvorak:
There's no such thing as a couture lingerie.
Adam Curry:
Of course there is. What are you talking about? And you know who buys most of the stuff is a...
John C. Dvorak:
This is like a ripoff of Victoria's Secret. Ohhh... There's couple of pickaboo things that are quite interesting.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
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Adam Curry:
Pickaboo. Hey citizens;
Jingle:
Hey citizen;
Adam Curry:
I see two citizens in front of me. Yeah. But you know, fifty thousand dollars (50000 USD). Whoa!
John C. Dvorak:
Do it while you can, lady. She's probably related to Thomas Jefferson.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
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Adam Curry:
Thomas Mother-F Jefferson. Oh Wow. Ok.
John C. Dvorak:
So, lets see what we got here; I got a "Pooper-Pinsky-Brockovich" clip that goes on forever.
Adam Curry:
Oh. Lovely. I love a Pooper.
John C. Dvorak:
But it does start of with you can just kinda hear Dr. Drew kinda hinting around. But nobody will say anything. They will not bring up Gardasil.
Adam Curry:
He's been on this. He's been doing his whole show... is about this... It is lenghy. Wow, that's a long clip.
John C. Dvorak:
I wouldn't play the whole thing. But you can play a little bit.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
Her mom isn't satisfied with the answer she's been getting. State health department officials said they found no environmental or infections cause for the girl's symptoms. Some doctors who examined the girl said ticks could be stress related. Someone called conversion disorder. We're gonna have more in the moment. Activist Erin Brokovich is now getting involved. Over the weekends some of her associates collected soil samples near the girl's school.
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
Brokovich is looking into chemical that spilled in 1970 train derailment about four miles from the school. I talked to her and Dr. Drew about the case:
Clip (Anderson Cooper):
Dr. Drew you interviewed some of this young women, some of this girls exhibiting really astonishing symptoms. I know you haven't give them an actual examinations, but as a doctor from what you know what's your assessment?
Adam Curry:
Ok. Hold on a second. A theory. Theory, theory, theory... Remember they were doing gene testing, they wanted the girls come in and do voluntary gene testing?
Adam Curry:
Here's what I think happened: I think that Merck who runs the Gardasil outfit, I think they neglected to do proper testing on genes. And this is by the way goes back to Thomas Jefferson!
That, probably the human resources from certain gene pool can have a severe adverse effect to this particular vaccine. And they are now trying to figure it out and scrambling.
Because, of course, if they just didn't do a proper testing, which I believe you have to do for all kinds of injectables. You have to check gene pools.
Adam Curry:
This is why this is being covered up. That make any sense?
John C. Dvorak:
That could be. It sounds good. Yeah, it does actually make some sense.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
You heard enough of that clip.
Adam Curry:
Yes, I have.
John C. Dvorak:
I just wanted you to play some part of it. Here's the couple of things. I want to just tell everybody listening to the show: your taxes are going up. No matter what anyone tells you, your taxes are going up and they are going up no matter who gets elected, because this is already planed.
John C. Dvorak:
Because I was watching C-Span presentation by the congressional management budget office, the office of congressional... OCM... OMB... Whatever it is.
Adam Curry:
OMB.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, OMB. And he says they're going up. And then I just caught a hearing where somebody else just kind of casually said it was going up as if it was a done deal.
John C. Dvorak:
And all we're seeing right now with the pre-election is just bull crap arguing that's got nothing to do with reality, cause this whole thing is fixed. And i'm gonna actually want you to play part two of the clip, which says, "You're getting taxed, part two," which is the second part of this. I heard this after. And then you can play the part one and you can hear where it really is confirmed by the manage...
Adam Curry:
OMB.
John C. Dvorak:
OMB.
Clip (Sen. Mitch McConnell [R-KY]):
It's important to remember the president got everything he wanted the first two years. We're living in the Obama economy.
Clip (Kwame Holman):
At the White House, spokesman Jay Carney argued the president has done his part to cut spending.
Clip (Kwame Holman):
He said the real problem is the other side steadfastly rules out tax hikes.
Clip (Jay Carney):
What has been lacking thus far is any willingness to deal with revenue in any meaningful way by the Republicans. And that is just not the approach that the broad base of the American public feels is the right way to go.
John C. Dvorak:
You stop it there. Which is bullcrap by the way, nobody wants to be taxed more. Revenue is code for taxes.
John C. Dvorak:
They all want to... They've changed... We've got a new word in the vocabulary. So when they say revenue this means taxes.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, revenue!
John C. Dvorak:
Now they guy from OMB goes on an and on about this and he talks about this. Casually talks about the taxes that are going up because by law there's a bunch of them going on in play.
And, then he mentions that government... He has this horrible graph that shows that we're damn near broke, and he shows it going up and then he just casually mentions that they're not cutting back on the government spending much. This is very minor thing.
John C. Dvorak:
And we're still gonna do fine but the way we're going there is by being taxed a lot more. And this is a confirmation as far as I'm concerned.
Clip (Doug Elmendorf, Director of the Congressional Budget Office):
Let me turn now to our budget projections. Under current law, we expect that this year’s deficit will be about 1.1 trillion dollars (1,100,000,000,000 USD).
Adam Curry:
Yahoo!
Clip (Doug Elmendorf, Director of the Congressional Budget Office):
At 7% of GDP that is nearly 2% less than the deficit...
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute. So, we're twice as bad as everyone... With 7% of GDP is not like a...
John C. Dvorak:
Which means we'd be thrown out of EU.
Adam Curry:
Yeah! [laughs] Oh no, we can't join the European Union. Damn!
Clip (Doug Elmendorf, Director of the Congressional Budget Office):
Recorded last year -- than the deficit recorded last year but still larger than any deficit between 1947 and 2008.
“Over the next few years, projected deficits in CBO’s baseline narrow sharply (as you can see in the picture), averaging 1.5% of GDP and totaling about 3 trillion dollars (3,000,000,000,000 USD) between 2013 and 2022.
Clip (Doug Elmendorf, Director of the Congressional Budget Office):
With deficits small relative to the size of the economy, debt held by the public drops a little as a share of GDP, but remains quite high. Much of the projected decline in the deficit occurs because under current law, revenues will rise considerably. In particular, between 2012 and 2014, revenues in our baseline shoot up by more than 30% because of the recent or scheduled expiration of various tax provisions and new taxes or other collections that are scheduled to go into effect.
Clip (Doug Elmendorf, Director of the Congressional Budget Office):
Federal spending in the baseline declines modestly relative to GDP in the next few years
Adam Curry:
Revenue.
John C. Dvorak:
30%!
Adam Curry:
Wow! Revenue. He keeps saying revenues. Revenues.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Revenues are going to increase 30%! That means taxes.
Adam Curry:
Tax! Wow!
John C. Dvorak:
Are going up THIRTY PERCENT! And he mentions, "Well, you know, there's minor decline, modest... in spending".
John C. Dvorak:
So, there's gonna be a lot more taxes being taken from the public. And spending... meh. We're gonna spend it.
Adam Curry:
So let me bring all of this together for my final presentation of this program.
So, with our 7% deficit of GDP, which means we can not join the Eurozone, which... [laughs] ... which is sad.
With Europe being completely and royally F-d, where all of your money is going to go to the bankers. This is all code that they're using.
Adam Curry:
But this is going to go to the bankers. You're paying... Your taxes will go directly to bankers. As will ours by the way.
What is the final goal? It's been said time and again. And you can call me a conspiracy theorist you can call me a creep, you can call me whatever you want.
But, this is about truly on world fiscal and economic governance, which means all your money goes to the banks. The banks rule you. And we're going to have a global currency. A one world money.
Adam Curry:
Because, the Euro has to go away. The dollar is just paper at this point. Here is Sir Evelyn Rothschild.
And yes, i believe he's one of the evil ones. When he's asked the question about the renminbi, which is... isn't that that Indian thing?
John C. Dvorak:
I think so.
Adam Curry:
Listen to what his answer is!
Clip (Rishaad Salamat):
Sir Evelyn, what about the RMB situation? You mentioned a so-called currency problem – I mean, do you see the day in the next five years where it's fully convertible and flexible?
Clip (Evelyn de Rothschild):
Well, you're talking to a person who's quite old. If I'm around in five years, I'd like to think that that is the case.
i-think-weve-all-got-to-move-towards-that-opportunity:
and I think the challenge also is whether we should move towards an international currency.
Because, the speculation and the complexity of currency has caused some of the irritation – not only among the trading nations, but among individuals.
Clip (Evelyn de Rothschild):
But it's not for me to say how it'll happen; but I think everyone who knows how to deal with these situations is very cognizant of the problem it takes to get over it.
Adam Curry:
So there you have it. Top banking family saying, "Obviously I'm old. So, you know, my time is up, but it's very clear we're going to go towards the one world international currency. And it's not up to me to say how it's gonna happen."
Adam Curry:
JUST LOOK AROUND YOU!
They're bringing down everything, crashing everything. And I can't take this any other way than that's the plan.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, it's definitely a huge slowdown being created. Mimi is always moaning that they now tearing down houses. You known, that are unsold or being foreclosed, they're just ripping them down, tearing them down. Cause we need to get... We just keep pushing down the price of housing.
John C. Dvorak:
Even though it's actually way too low. So, the thing that I brought in the very beginning of the show, which I probably put in a little, maybe a paper and send it out to people. And which concerns me to an extreme, which is the Baltic Dry Index.
Adam Curry:
By the way, I was talking about the Chinese currency, obviously.
John C. Dvorak:
It could be.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Renminbi.
John C. Dvorak:
Baltic Dry Index is something like a 30 years low.
Adam Curry:
And what is that mean?
John C. Dvorak:
The Baltic Dry Index is a very interesting indicator that discusses only raw materials that are being shipped around the world: coal, wheat, copper, just anything like that.
And it is a leading indicator, meaning that a whatever it does it happens afterwards. And it is so low at this point, that it's lower than it was when... remember when the crash took place in 2008?
Adam Curry:
Uh-huh. You mean the crisis?
John C. Dvorak:
The crisis.
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
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Ding
John C. Dvorak:
In 2008, the Baltic Dry Index really just cratered, and then it didn't even fully recovered. It's never recovered.
And now, it's cratering again even though the stock market is twelve thousand [12,000].
This whole thing is rigged to collapse. And, you know, I don't know if that helps to get us more donations, probably not.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
But I think people should keep this show on the air, so that they can hear about this sort of thing; I'll discuss this more in detail. It's frightening to look at this chart. Frightening.
Adam Curry:
And you're a financial analyst, my friend.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I'm not very good at it.
Adam Curry:
Well, there you have it.
John C. Dvorak:
I can see the obvious with this thing. This thing is unbelievable!
Adam Curry:
I'm thoroughly bummed out right now. Thanks, John. Great.
John C. Dvorak:
Welcome.
Adam Curry:
Uh, Sir Gitmo, do we have a producer update coming up later today or something that I should be promoting on the stream?
Well, let me know in the back channel, of course. So there you have it.
Adam Curry:
I don't think any other podcast or any other show really will give you this type of information. And may be have a laugh or two on the way.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
May be on our expense.
John C. Dvorak:
Panetta did.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Oh yeah, he's laughing. About droning you!
And we'll be back here on Sunday. To do it all over again. With original content!
Coming to from camp Mofo, where we have chemtrails in the skies. In the morning everybody! My name is Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak:
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm watching the Baltic Dry Index, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
Talk to you again on Sunday right here, on No Agenda.
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Back on the Young Turks: Well, this morning we're talking with Jared Jackson, who is our long-time producer and he was saying, 'You know, every network and station covers, uh, Black History Month in the same way. You find out about Booger T. Washington and like little snippets, etc. booger/booger/booger
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